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Civilization, History, and the Decline of the West: An Overview of Samuel P. Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations" (part one of six)
by Victor Thorn
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Samuel P. Huntington, one of the elite architects of the New World Order, wrote an article in the summer of 1993 for the Council on Foreign Relations premier publication, Foreign Affairs, where he said, “The central and most dangerous dimension of the emerging global politics would be the conflict between groups of differing civilizations.”
This simple passage was the key to Huntington’s seminal 1996 work, Clash of Civilizations, which was the first to lay the foundation for our current global-war environment. Because Russian Communism had finally withered away due to its inherent fallibility as a political system, those at the top of the Control pyramid needed to create a new enemy to keep their conflict-oriented Hegelian Dialectic chugging along its course. Stated differently, Michael Dibdin wrote in Dead Lagoon: “There can be no true friends without true enemies. Unless we hate what we are not, we cannot love what we are.” This simple sentiment – psychology 101 at its most simple – is the central tenet of the Controllers divide-and-conquer strategy that they’ve used to keep their subjects at each other’s throat since the beginning of time. It’s the oldest trick in the book, and one that capitalizes on mankind’s suspicion of those different than themselves.
Thus, as the New World Order media pundits tell us on a daily basis, the most dangerous enemies we have today are those from different civilizations. Similar to the perpetual war culture of George Orwell’s 1984, we’ve gone from having the Germans/*****/Japanese as our primary enemy in the 1940’s to the Soviets during the Cold War. Along the way, we also had the Koreans as our enemy in the 1950’s, the Vietnamese in the 1960’s and early ‘70’s, plus the Libyans, Nicaraguans, and Serbs.
But since these enemies have outlived their usefulness and fallen to the wayside, the global planners needed another villain to raise our ire. So, why not exploit the concept of hating those who are culturally different than we are? This process began nearly ten years ago with the publication of Samuel Huntington’s CFR article, and was quickly advanced by another NWO blueprint-maker, Zbginiew Brzezinski’s The Grand Chessboard.
Huntington’s work, which will be the primary focus of this article, begins by asking: what precisely is Western civilization? The famous historian Carroll Quigley answers by telling us that in 500 A.D., there was no such concept as Western civilization. But, a thousand years later – in 1,500 A.D. – Western civilization had grown to full flower and was the most dominant force on earth. As its influence grew, the Europeans moved into other countries, invaded them, and tried to affect how other parts of the world were ruled (i.e. imperialism). Regrettably, Huntington informs us that today Western civilization is rapidly on the decline and will, within less than five centuries, pass from existence!
The actuality of specific “civilizations” did not even come into prominence until the 1700’s when the notion was advanced by French intellectuals who differentiated nomadic savages from those who were “settled, urban, and literate.” According to these French thinkers, society could only progress if mankind became more civilized. One of the most monumental results of this paradigm-shift was the Industrial Revolution, which forever changed the face of our planet in regard to production, consumption, the environment, human interaction, and our general psyche.
At the time when these societal shifts were unfolding, civilizations were by-and-large geographically separated. Due to travel and communication limitations, the only contact the majority of people from one civilization had with another was via war (the conquering and/or elimination of one people by another), or through enslavement (example: Africa to America). Today, though, with the advancement of mind-boggling technological advancements, eight distinct, globally-interrelated civilizations have emerged:
Oriental
Indian
Islamic
Russian
Western
Latin
African
Jewish
Most of these civilizations have at their center a “core” country whose dynamics come to represent the overall whole. These dominant core countries within each civilization change over time, as can be seen in Western civilization with France, England, and then the United States filling this role over the last three centuries. The same can be said for the Orient, where Japan was once the leader, while today China is quickly assuming that role. On the contrary, some civilizations such as Islam do not have a dominant core country to lead the helm; a fact which is very evident today as Western leaders warn us of an elusive “reign of terror” and “axis of evil.”
Historian Arnold J. Toynbee has even gone so far as to outline the stages of each civilization, which I will reproduce in the context of the United States of America:
1) Creation as a response to great challenges. (Our American Revolution due to immense dissatisfaction with England’s rule from across the sea.)
2) A period of growth where control of the environment is produced by a creative minority. (The Founding Fathers - a group of inordinately talented men.)
3) Times of trouble. (Our Civil War, and now a potential post-9/11 world war.)
4) Rise of a universal state. (New World Order.)
5) Disintegration. (Western civilization as we know it today eliminated.)
The United States was thus formed by a collection of like-minded people with a common religion, language, history, morality, and form of government. But this foundation – the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and our Bill of Rights – is being systematically usurped and destroyed by the Globalists. This travesty will be the primary cause for our eventual downfall unless the people of this country are strong enough to retain what made us great in the first place.
Adda Bozeman, in Strategic Intelligence and Statecraft, said of this phenomenon: “International history rightly documents the thesis … that the destiny of each linguistically and MORALLY UNIFIED COMMUNITY depends ultimately upon the survival of certain primary structuring ideas around which successive generations have coalesced and which thus symbolize the society’s continuity.”
To better convey this concept, I’ve often used the analogy of an automobile and its oil. If a car owner keeps their oil pure and clean, it will literally run forever. But if they ignore this vital component and allow their oil to get dirty, or if outside elements are added to impair the car’s performance, soon it will break down alongside the road. (The old adage about oil and water not mixing is certainly true.) These negative external influences in relation to our country would be: rampant illegal immigration, increasing U.N. rule, the rise of super-national corporate infiltration of government, trade agreements like NAFTA and GATT, or the emergence of a world court system. The result, of course, would be the eventual loss of our national sovereignty, and ultimately our country as a whole.
So, the question we need to ask ourselves is: what are we as a country and a civilization, and what do we want to become? If certain trends continue unabated as they have been, it’s fair to say that the United States is embarking upon a road that is leading to ruin, not resurgence. -->
by Victor Thorn
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Samuel P. Huntington, one of the elite architects of the New World Order, wrote an article in the summer of 1993 for the Council on Foreign Relations premier publication, Foreign Affairs, where he said, “The central and most dangerous dimension of the emerging global politics would be the conflict between groups of differing civilizations.”
This simple passage was the key to Huntington’s seminal 1996 work, Clash of Civilizations, which was the first to lay the foundation for our current global-war environment. Because Russian Communism had finally withered away due to its inherent fallibility as a political system, those at the top of the Control pyramid needed to create a new enemy to keep their conflict-oriented Hegelian Dialectic chugging along its course. Stated differently, Michael Dibdin wrote in Dead Lagoon: “There can be no true friends without true enemies. Unless we hate what we are not, we cannot love what we are.” This simple sentiment – psychology 101 at its most simple – is the central tenet of the Controllers divide-and-conquer strategy that they’ve used to keep their subjects at each other’s throat since the beginning of time. It’s the oldest trick in the book, and one that capitalizes on mankind’s suspicion of those different than themselves.
Thus, as the New World Order media pundits tell us on a daily basis, the most dangerous enemies we have today are those from different civilizations. Similar to the perpetual war culture of George Orwell’s 1984, we’ve gone from having the Germans/*****/Japanese as our primary enemy in the 1940’s to the Soviets during the Cold War. Along the way, we also had the Koreans as our enemy in the 1950’s, the Vietnamese in the 1960’s and early ‘70’s, plus the Libyans, Nicaraguans, and Serbs.
But since these enemies have outlived their usefulness and fallen to the wayside, the global planners needed another villain to raise our ire. So, why not exploit the concept of hating those who are culturally different than we are? This process began nearly ten years ago with the publication of Samuel Huntington’s CFR article, and was quickly advanced by another NWO blueprint-maker, Zbginiew Brzezinski’s The Grand Chessboard.
Huntington’s work, which will be the primary focus of this article, begins by asking: what precisely is Western civilization? The famous historian Carroll Quigley answers by telling us that in 500 A.D., there was no such concept as Western civilization. But, a thousand years later – in 1,500 A.D. – Western civilization had grown to full flower and was the most dominant force on earth. As its influence grew, the Europeans moved into other countries, invaded them, and tried to affect how other parts of the world were ruled (i.e. imperialism). Regrettably, Huntington informs us that today Western civilization is rapidly on the decline and will, within less than five centuries, pass from existence!
The actuality of specific “civilizations” did not even come into prominence until the 1700’s when the notion was advanced by French intellectuals who differentiated nomadic savages from those who were “settled, urban, and literate.” According to these French thinkers, society could only progress if mankind became more civilized. One of the most monumental results of this paradigm-shift was the Industrial Revolution, which forever changed the face of our planet in regard to production, consumption, the environment, human interaction, and our general psyche.
At the time when these societal shifts were unfolding, civilizations were by-and-large geographically separated. Due to travel and communication limitations, the only contact the majority of people from one civilization had with another was via war (the conquering and/or elimination of one people by another), or through enslavement (example: Africa to America). Today, though, with the advancement of mind-boggling technological advancements, eight distinct, globally-interrelated civilizations have emerged:
Oriental
Indian
Islamic
Russian
Western
Latin
African
Jewish
Most of these civilizations have at their center a “core” country whose dynamics come to represent the overall whole. These dominant core countries within each civilization change over time, as can be seen in Western civilization with France, England, and then the United States filling this role over the last three centuries. The same can be said for the Orient, where Japan was once the leader, while today China is quickly assuming that role. On the contrary, some civilizations such as Islam do not have a dominant core country to lead the helm; a fact which is very evident today as Western leaders warn us of an elusive “reign of terror” and “axis of evil.”
Historian Arnold J. Toynbee has even gone so far as to outline the stages of each civilization, which I will reproduce in the context of the United States of America:
1) Creation as a response to great challenges. (Our American Revolution due to immense dissatisfaction with England’s rule from across the sea.)
2) A period of growth where control of the environment is produced by a creative minority. (The Founding Fathers - a group of inordinately talented men.)
3) Times of trouble. (Our Civil War, and now a potential post-9/11 world war.)
4) Rise of a universal state. (New World Order.)
5) Disintegration. (Western civilization as we know it today eliminated.)
The United States was thus formed by a collection of like-minded people with a common religion, language, history, morality, and form of government. But this foundation – the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and our Bill of Rights – is being systematically usurped and destroyed by the Globalists. This travesty will be the primary cause for our eventual downfall unless the people of this country are strong enough to retain what made us great in the first place.
Adda Bozeman, in Strategic Intelligence and Statecraft, said of this phenomenon: “International history rightly documents the thesis … that the destiny of each linguistically and MORALLY UNIFIED COMMUNITY depends ultimately upon the survival of certain primary structuring ideas around which successive generations have coalesced and which thus symbolize the society’s continuity.”
To better convey this concept, I’ve often used the analogy of an automobile and its oil. If a car owner keeps their oil pure and clean, it will literally run forever. But if they ignore this vital component and allow their oil to get dirty, or if outside elements are added to impair the car’s performance, soon it will break down alongside the road. (The old adage about oil and water not mixing is certainly true.) These negative external influences in relation to our country would be: rampant illegal immigration, increasing U.N. rule, the rise of super-national corporate infiltration of government, trade agreements like NAFTA and GATT, or the emergence of a world court system. The result, of course, would be the eventual loss of our national sovereignty, and ultimately our country as a whole.
So, the question we need to ask ourselves is: what are we as a country and a civilization, and what do we want to become? If certain trends continue unabated as they have been, it’s fair to say that the United States is embarking upon a road that is leading to ruin, not resurgence. -->
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If the study of world empires shows anything, it is that those who are “king of the hill” don’t remain there forever. Look at the Assyrians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Ottoman, Persian, Roman, and British empires. You will find that those at the pinnacle have always been toppled, and history does indeed repeat itself. One of the reasons why certain societies ascend upward or defeat another in battle is due to technological breakthroughs which gives them a unique advantage over everyone else. The type of ammunition used by the North in opposition to the South in America’s Civil War is a perfect example of why the Union won. Thomas Kuhn, in The Structure of Scientific Revolution, applies this concept to a shift in the way we view our physical world because new information or data replaces the old. He writes, “To be accepted as a paradigm a theory must seem better than its competitors, but it need not, and never does, explain all the facts with which it can be confronted.”
In the 20th century we saw three such historical shifts. The first took place with World War I, which was deliberately staged by the Controllers to rid Europe of its old-style rule of kings, princes, royal families and scattered sovereign nation-states. What the moneyed-elite desired was a destruction of the past power-structure, replaced by those who were groomed in the Round Table-Oxford-New World Order style government. Building upon this notion, WWII was deliberately fomented from the ashes of WWI and the League of Nations so that the United Nations could emerge as a new global power.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt said that WWII would “end the system of unilateral action, the exclusive alliances, the balances of power, and all the other expedients that have been tried for centuries – and have always failed.”
In essence, then, what resulted from these two wars was a dramatic shift in the way our world was governed. Whereas a multitude of distinct nation-states existed independent of each other prior to the Great Wars, they were eventually ‘collectivized’ by global treaties and organizations. By the early 1950’s, coinciding with the creation of Cold War hostilities, the world was divided into three camps. On one side we had the United States – democratic and capitalistic, on the other was Communist Russian; while every other country was a minor player in the shadow of this bi-polar rule. During this four decade Cold War, America and the Soviet Union competed for the soul of every other third world country in terms of philosophy, governing style, business ventures and weaponry.
The third shift of the 20th century came about with the fall of Communism (symbolized by the Berlin Wall coming down) and cemented when George Bush Sr. gave his famous “New World Order” proclamation on three different occasions. When this change in political perspective took place, our world moved beyond bi-polar rule and found itself with one remaining super-power and unrivaled king of the hill – the United States of America.
The primary problems facing this nation today aren’t terrorists with 12th century mindsets or elusive weapons of mass destruction supposedly hidden in Iraq. No, the true cancer eating away at us is the collective thought of invincibility on the part of the American people. We’ve become so confident in our position that American cannot be beaten at anything (especially war) that any suggestion to the contrary seems laughable. In other words, I’m afraid to say that we now consider ourselves the end-all and be-all of everything. But as Samuel Huntington says with frightening clarity, “Societies that assume that their history has ended are usually societies whose history is about to decline.”
This quote is reminiscent of one given by Arnold J. Toynbee in A Study of History where he described the English middle class in 1897 and their inflated notions of “Pax Brittanica” – “As they saw it, history for them was over, and they had every reason to congratulate themselves on the permanent state of felicity which this ending of history had conferred on them.”
But guess what. The British Empire fell, and in this vein, America is a mature society (as opposed to a lean, mean, young and hungry society), and it is in decline due to deterioration from within. When these symptoms surfaced in the past, one of two things resulted:
1) The country in question was invaded and severely beaten. If we become immersed in a world war on multiple fronts and all our troops are on foreign soil, what would prevent Russian or China from sweeping onto our shores and giving us a whooping?
2) The society rots from within. If you don’t think we’re completely rotten on the inside, take a few moments to look at how the ‘selected’ leaders of this country have absolutely sold us out to the Controllers. It’s appalling. In this sense, we’re as rotten as ancient Rome was in every conceivable way.
Plus, due to the deliberate erosion of our borders and the inception of cultural-elements contrary to what made this country great; we’re following a path leading to a less-than-optimal outcome. Or, as Samuel Huntington tell us, “History shows that no country so constituted [with a cultural core] can long endure as a coherent society. A multicivilizational United States will not be the United States; it will be the United Nations.” -->
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If the study of world empires shows anything, it is that those who are “king of the hill” don’t remain there forever. Look at the Assyrians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Ottoman, Persian, Roman, and British empires. You will find that those at the pinnacle have always been toppled, and history does indeed repeat itself. One of the reasons why certain societies ascend upward or defeat another in battle is due to technological breakthroughs which gives them a unique advantage over everyone else. The type of ammunition used by the North in opposition to the South in America’s Civil War is a perfect example of why the Union won. Thomas Kuhn, in The Structure of Scientific Revolution, applies this concept to a shift in the way we view our physical world because new information or data replaces the old. He writes, “To be accepted as a paradigm a theory must seem better than its competitors, but it need not, and never does, explain all the facts with which it can be confronted.”
In the 20th century we saw three such historical shifts. The first took place with World War I, which was deliberately staged by the Controllers to rid Europe of its old-style rule of kings, princes, royal families and scattered sovereign nation-states. What the moneyed-elite desired was a destruction of the past power-structure, replaced by those who were groomed in the Round Table-Oxford-New World Order style government. Building upon this notion, WWII was deliberately fomented from the ashes of WWI and the League of Nations so that the United Nations could emerge as a new global power.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt said that WWII would “end the system of unilateral action, the exclusive alliances, the balances of power, and all the other expedients that have been tried for centuries – and have always failed.”
In essence, then, what resulted from these two wars was a dramatic shift in the way our world was governed. Whereas a multitude of distinct nation-states existed independent of each other prior to the Great Wars, they were eventually ‘collectivized’ by global treaties and organizations. By the early 1950’s, coinciding with the creation of Cold War hostilities, the world was divided into three camps. On one side we had the United States – democratic and capitalistic, on the other was Communist Russian; while every other country was a minor player in the shadow of this bi-polar rule. During this four decade Cold War, America and the Soviet Union competed for the soul of every other third world country in terms of philosophy, governing style, business ventures and weaponry.
The third shift of the 20th century came about with the fall of Communism (symbolized by the Berlin Wall coming down) and cemented when George Bush Sr. gave his famous “New World Order” proclamation on three different occasions. When this change in political perspective took place, our world moved beyond bi-polar rule and found itself with one remaining super-power and unrivaled king of the hill – the United States of America.
The primary problems facing this nation today aren’t terrorists with 12th century mindsets or elusive weapons of mass destruction supposedly hidden in Iraq. No, the true cancer eating away at us is the collective thought of invincibility on the part of the American people. We’ve become so confident in our position that American cannot be beaten at anything (especially war) that any suggestion to the contrary seems laughable. In other words, I’m afraid to say that we now consider ourselves the end-all and be-all of everything. But as Samuel Huntington says with frightening clarity, “Societies that assume that their history has ended are usually societies whose history is about to decline.”
This quote is reminiscent of one given by Arnold J. Toynbee in A Study of History where he described the English middle class in 1897 and their inflated notions of “Pax Brittanica” – “As they saw it, history for them was over, and they had every reason to congratulate themselves on the permanent state of felicity which this ending of history had conferred on them.”
But guess what. The British Empire fell, and in this vein, America is a mature society (as opposed to a lean, mean, young and hungry society), and it is in decline due to deterioration from within. When these symptoms surfaced in the past, one of two things resulted:
1) The country in question was invaded and severely beaten. If we become immersed in a world war on multiple fronts and all our troops are on foreign soil, what would prevent Russian or China from sweeping onto our shores and giving us a whooping?
2) The society rots from within. If you don’t think we’re completely rotten on the inside, take a few moments to look at how the ‘selected’ leaders of this country have absolutely sold us out to the Controllers. It’s appalling. In this sense, we’re as rotten as ancient Rome was in every conceivable way.
Plus, due to the deliberate erosion of our borders and the inception of cultural-elements contrary to what made this country great; we’re following a path leading to a less-than-optimal outcome. Or, as Samuel Huntington tell us, “History shows that no country so constituted [with a cultural core] can long endure as a coherent society. A multicivilizational United States will not be the United States; it will be the United Nations.” -->
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"part one of six" . Mike, that is really scary. Does that mean we will be subjected to the other five. Speaking ONLY for myself, I am not looking on the forum for a treatise or lecture on any subject, just information, interesting points and counterpoints exchanged with respect and some humor. Please understand I admire your zeal and your study of the subjects - it is like when the little boy asked his father about something. The father said, "Why don't you ask your mother"? The little boy replied, "I don't want to know that much about it".
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I agree with Dono. The cut and paste thing is getting pretty tired.
I'd be far more interested in your own opinions and how you feel all this stuff relates to you personally.
I for one, have started to ignore most of these posts.
Waxy
I'd be far more interested in your own opinions and how you feel all this stuff relates to you personally.
I for one, have started to ignore most of these posts.
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the root of the word comes from civitas, which is latin for city, and meant for city-state, like Rome, or Athens, or Sparta, where inhabitans had rights. The same root is in the word citizen, i.e. person in the city, and also civil.
Most countries in the world never achieved the status of "civilization", being status societies, like China, India, Africa, and ancient high-cultures. Only ancient Rome, greece, Israel and then European societies and of course America can be considered civilizations due to their idea of divine rights and not omnipotent King.
the root of the word comes from civitas, which is latin for city, and meant for city-state, like Rome, or Athens, or Sparta, where inhabitans had rights. The same root is in the word citizen, i.e. person in the city, and also civil.
Most countries in the world never achieved the status of "civilization", being status societies, like China, India, Africa, and ancient high-cultures. Only ancient Rome, greece, Israel and then European societies and of course America can be considered civilizations due to their idea of divine rights and not omnipotent King.
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