Fresh out of warranty... Check Engine...
#1
05-26-2023, 08:56 PM
Fresh out of warranty... Check Engine...
Almost like they planned it. Not a single issue with this truck in almost two years and 60k miles. I did my 60k oil change, checked things over, had the tires rotated and balanced and set off on a 500 mile trip to Kansas. About 4 hours into the drive I get a check engine light. No change in running, no change in fuel consumption so I finish the trip, cruise set just under 85. We get to our son's place and I use his code reader.
The code that cause the check engine light to come on is for low coolant temp. Right.... after 4 hours of driving in the mountains. I reset the code and have driven the truck 30-40 miles since with no issue. What kind of stupid code is "low coolant temp"? I mean really low and you could wash the cylinders and do some damage but otherwise, seriously? Never heard of such a thing. Almost certainly a conspiracy by Ford to get me to waste money at their dealer network... perfect timing and not really a problem to be fixed. Just found it ridiculous... I despise electronics in my vehicle and this is a prime example of why. I think what I really need is a '76 hi boy
The code that cause the check engine light to come on is for low coolant temp. Right.... after 4 hours of driving in the mountains. I reset the code and have driven the truck 30-40 miles since with no issue. What kind of stupid code is "low coolant temp"? I mean really low and you could wash the cylinders and do some damage but otherwise, seriously? Never heard of such a thing. Almost certainly a conspiracy by Ford to get me to waste money at their dealer network... perfect timing and not really a problem to be fixed. Just found it ridiculous... I despise electronics in my vehicle and this is a prime example of why. I think what I really need is a '76 hi boy
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#3
05-27-2023, 04:41 AM
Almost like they planned it. Not a single issue with this truck in almost two years and 60k miles. I did my 60k oil change, checked things over, had the tires rotated and balanced and set off on a 500 mile trip to Kansas. About 4 hours into the drive I get a check engine light. No change in running, no change in fuel consumption so I finish the trip, cruise set just under 85. We get to our son's place and I use his code reader.
The code that cause the check engine light to come on is for low coolant temp. Right.... after 4 hours of driving in the mountains. I reset the code and have driven the truck 30-40 miles since with no issue. What kind of stupid code is "low coolant temp"? I mean really low and you could wash the cylinders and do some damage but otherwise, seriously? Never heard of such a thing. Almost certainly a conspiracy by Ford to get me to waste money at their dealer network... perfect timing and not really a problem to be fixed. Just found it ridiculous... I despise electronics in my vehicle and this is a prime example of why. I think what I really need is a '76 hi boy
The code that cause the check engine light to come on is for low coolant temp. Right.... after 4 hours of driving in the mountains. I reset the code and have driven the truck 30-40 miles since with no issue. What kind of stupid code is "low coolant temp"? I mean really low and you could wash the cylinders and do some damage but otherwise, seriously? Never heard of such a thing. Almost certainly a conspiracy by Ford to get me to waste money at their dealer network... perfect timing and not really a problem to be fixed. Just found it ridiculous... I despise electronics in my vehicle and this is a prime example of why. I think what I really need is a '76 hi boy
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#5
05-27-2023, 02:01 PM
Cargo Master
In a controlled environment, with the big 3 colluding under the watchful eye of the federal government, the customer's alternatives will be reduced or eliminated, and now the firm can treat its customers like possessions to be exploited. Warning lights are just one means. I think if customers were aware of the full degree of exploitation now taking place in US auto markets, including political, things might change.
I saw the new ad for the GMC assisted cruise control where grown a** people sit in their pickup on the highway going down the road and clapping to the Queens song. This is where we are now, where pick up owners are too lazy to keep their hands on the steering wheel, open the tailgate, figure out what gear to be in, or use their mirrors and backup camera to figure out where they are, and yet people keep taking on longer and bigger payments to get more "tech".
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#6
05-27-2023, 02:20 PM
Fleet Mechanic
#7
05-27-2023, 02:34 PM
why think for one's self when they can get life instructions from youtube and tiktok?
I saw the new ad for the GMC assisted cruise control where grown a** people sit in their pickup on the highway going down the road and clapping to the Queens song. This is where we are now, where pick up owners are too lazy to keep their hands on the steering wheel, open the tailgate, figure out what gear to be in, or use their mirrors and backup camera to figure out where they are, and yet people keep taking on longer and bigger payments to get more "tech".
I saw the new ad for the GMC assisted cruise control where grown a** people sit in their pickup on the highway going down the road and clapping to the Queens song. This is where we are now, where pick up owners are too lazy to keep their hands on the steering wheel, open the tailgate, figure out what gear to be in, or use their mirrors and backup camera to figure out where they are, and yet people keep taking on longer and bigger payments to get more "tech".
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#8
05-27-2023, 03:12 PM
I think your suspicions are well placed. Auto manufacturers have indeed been using electronics to increase revenues, by compromising their customers. As we all know, this kind of behavior is characteristic of controlled "markets" or central planning.
In a competitive environment, a firm that compromises its customers will lose the customer. Since the customer has other choices. The big 3 oppose this and have opted to collude with the government instead.
In a controlled environment, with the big 3 colluding under the watchful eye of the federal government, the customer's alternatives will be reduced or eliminated, and now the firm can treat its customers like possessions to be exploited. Warning lights are just one means. I think if customers were aware of the full degree of exploitation now taking place in US auto markets, including political, things might change.
In a competitive environment, a firm that compromises its customers will lose the customer. Since the customer has other choices. The big 3 oppose this and have opted to collude with the government instead.
In a controlled environment, with the big 3 colluding under the watchful eye of the federal government, the customer's alternatives will be reduced or eliminated, and now the firm can treat its customers like possessions to be exploited. Warning lights are just one means. I think if customers were aware of the full degree of exploitation now taking place in US auto markets, including political, things might change.
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05-28-2023, 06:52 AM
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#10
05-28-2023, 08:14 AM
Mountain Pass
I think your suspicions are well placed. Auto manufacturers have indeed been using electronics to increase revenues, by compromising their customers. As we all know, this kind of behavior is characteristic of controlled "markets" or central planning.
In a competitive environment, a firm that compromises its customers will lose the customer. Since the customer has other choices. The big 3 oppose this and have opted to collude with the government instead.
In a controlled environment, with the big 3 colluding under the watchful eye of the federal government, the customer's alternatives will be reduced or eliminated, and now the firm can treat its customers like possessions to be exploited. Warning lights are just one means. I think if customers were aware of the full degree of exploitation now taking place in US auto markets, including political, things might change.
In a competitive environment, a firm that compromises its customers will lose the customer. Since the customer has other choices. The big 3 oppose this and have opted to collude with the government instead.
In a controlled environment, with the big 3 colluding under the watchful eye of the federal government, the customer's alternatives will be reduced or eliminated, and now the firm can treat its customers like possessions to be exploited. Warning lights are just one means. I think if customers were aware of the full degree of exploitation now taking place in US auto markets, including political, things might change.
#11
05-28-2023, 03:12 PM
Cargo Master
The blind spots on the new trucks due to the much higher height is a real problem and back up camera has been standard on trucks for close to a decade now.
if that’s your best “aha gotcha”, well, congrats.
if that’s your best “aha gotcha”, well, congrats.
#12
05-28-2023, 07:33 PM
You set a p0128. It’s not a conspiracy. If the engine doesn’t reach operating temp in a calibrated amount of time you set that code. The conspiracy won’t seem as so when you have luke warm heat in the winter because your not running warm enough . 😂. Change your thermostat. They are a dual thermostat and the rubber around them breaks down. When you take the old one out pay attention to orientation as it needs to go back in the exact same way. Takes about 25 mins tops to replace.
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#13
05-28-2023, 08:15 PM
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#14
05-28-2023, 08:47 PM
You set a p0128. It’s not a conspiracy. If the engine doesn’t reach operating temp in a calibrated amount of time you set that code. The conspiracy won’t seem as so when you have luke warm heat in the winter because your not running warm enough . 😂. Change your thermostat. They are a dual thermostat and the rubber around them breaks down. When you take the old one out pay attention to orientation as it needs to go back in the exact same way. Takes about 25 mins tops to replace.
#15
05-29-2023, 09:43 AM
Lead Driver