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The residual value of the diesel at trade in is HIGHLY dependent on your market. Sometimes you get the full 9k back, sometimes you get as little as 60% of that, just depends on timing, market, and the position of the stars.
That being said, if you aren't towing regularly, and you want payload, I would almost certainly recommend the 6.2. Less costly maintenance, much less cost upfront (you can easily get a very nicely optioned XL/XLT for under 50k), easier to find fueling stations, etc. If you are mostly highway, you'll typically average 14-15 mpg. Also keep in mind that a lot of places, gas is much cheaper than diesel, so if you are traveling far from home, that could eat into your recoup costs for the diesel as well. With no trailer, the 6.2 has more than plenty of power at any speed even if you are loaded down.
Crew vs Super cab - if you travel alone and don't plan to put people in the back for extended periods of time, supercab is fine. BUT with the CC and long bed you get the majestic 48 gallon tank. This is by far worth it for a CCLB. You can easily get 600 highway miles on a tank no problem. The CCLB is only like 1.5' or so longer than the SCLB, so it really doesn't make that much a difference.
4.30 gears, even for highway, are probably a good choice if you are going to be hauling heavy. You mileage in town will improve, and will honestly probably be a wash on the highway. Maybe .5 mpg or so improvement with the 3.73.
The most you'll get out of payload for a 250 is probably around 3500 lbs (you'll have to check the spec sheets) with SC/CC and 4x4. If you decide that's enough then definitely get the camper package. You get the rear stabilizer and the overload springs, which are a good deal for what it costs. Otherwise, I'd probably go with the 350. 18" wheels and AT tires will also make sure you get the highest payload.
If I were you, I'd get a CCLB 350 STX 6.2L, and spend your leftover 5k in the budget on some nice shocks, steering stabilizer, and a decent stereo; you'll probably still come out under budget. That would be the ultimate highway cruiser with huge payload and bang for the buck.
thanks man, you guys put the reasoning back to my brain and I'll probably go 6.2 CC 4x4 LB f350. XLT or Lariat will depends on the deal.
Then you really are looking at an F350 CCLB. Also get the camper package option... For your likely configuration, it will add a rear sway bar and it might add slightly stiffer front springs.
The 4.30 axle ratio will help should you decide to get bigger tires. Compared to running 3.73s in 6th gear, it’ll be more like gear 5-1/2.
Then you really are looking at an F350 CCLB. Also get the camper package option... For your likely configuration, it will add a rear sway bar and it might add slightly stiffer front springs.
The 4.30 axle ratio will help should you decide to get bigger tires. Compared to running 3.73s in 6th gear, it’ll be more like gear 5-1/2.
HTH,
Jim/ crewzer
thanks! can the camper package be an add on option from dealer if the truck on the lot doesnt come with?
thanks! can the camper package be an add on option from dealer if the truck on the lot doesnt come with?
Like so many things, the answer IMHO is "it depends". Any F350 with 18" wheels or larger will likely be fitted with the five-leaf rear spring packs, so there's no upgrade from that. It's easy to check the rear suspension and count the leaves.
The dealer should be able to add the rear sway bar, assuming they can figure out the right parts. Another option is to buy after-market, i.e., Helwig (sp?).
The front coil spring upgrade might be another matter. A lot truck may already be equipped with the "maximum standard" front springs (driven by option combo), so there wouldn't be an upgrade included in the factory CP option. The as-built spring rating can be checked by looking at the front gross axle weight rating (FGAWR) on the truck's certification label. I suspect the dealer (or an independent) could change the front springs. The single-step change in the front spring constants is not that much anyway.
Like so many things, the answer IMHO is "it depends". Any F350 with 18" wheels or larger will likely be fitted with the five-leaf rear spring packs, so there's no upgrade from that. It's easy to check the rear suspension and count the leaves.
The dealer should be able to add the rear sway bar, assuming they can figure out the right parts. Another option is to buy after-market, i.e., Helwig (sp?).
The front coil spring upgrade might be another matter. A lot truck may already be equipped with the "maximum standard" front springs (driven by option combo), so there wouldn't be an upgrade included in the factory CP option. The as-built spring rating can be checked by looking at the front gross axle weight rating (FGAWR) on the truck's certification label. I suspect the dealer (or an independent) could change the front springs. The single-step change in the front spring constants is not that much anyway.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
Awesome! that is a lot of good info. now I just have to locate the truck I need in the pnw and work the bar and suspension from there
what shoes you end up putting on? I was thinking to skim down on the options and swap for tires/wheel out the door
parked for the next trip. Got to get end cap seals replaced
205/75 x 14 LR-D GY-Endurance shoes for TT not truck sorry for any misunderstanding
The keystone outback got some Goodyear Endurance load range D tires.
Pulling TT back home was much smoother little sway when encountering 18 wheeler traffic and peace of mind is priceless.
parked for the next trip. Got to get end cap seals replaced
205/75 x 14 LR-D GY-Endurance shoes for TT not truck sorry for any misunderstanding
The keystone outback got some Goodyear Endurance load range D tires.
Pulling TT back home was much smoother little sway when encountering 18 wheeler traffic and peace of mind is priceless.
I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this, forgot in my first post. If you go 6.2L, there is a transmission difference between F250/F350. Maybe it was placebo effect but I did notice a difference in test drives. My F250 engine/transmission seem well suited for each other. It shifts right when I want usually.
thanks man, you guys put the reasoning back to my brain and I'll probably go 6.2 CC 4x4 LB f350. XLT or Lariat will depends on the deal.
No way I'd go with the 6.2 gasser. I own a 2017 F350 CC LB Lariat 6.7. With the options below she weighs a staggering 8,400 lbs empty. Every option you choose adds weight and subtracts from the payload. My max payload is only 3,062 lbs combined occupants and cargo due to all my options.
I'm at 25k miles and the 6.7 has performed really well driving around the Portland, Vancouver area. Tons of power, good acceleration, good mileage. Couldn't be happier. All my previous trucks were gas, love this 6.7. Only issue I have had so far is leaking batteries, they were both just replaced under warranty a few weeks back.
440 HP, 925 lb-ft Torque get some! Also, every time I look at my massive 3 inch receiver hitch I smile lol.
No way I'd go with the 6.2 gasser. I own a 2017 F350 CC LB Lariat 6.7. With the options below she weighs a staggering 8,400 lbs empty. Every option you choose adds weight and subtracts from the payload. My max payload is only 3,062 lbs combined occupants and cargo due to all my options.
I'm at 25k miles and the 6.7 has performed really well driving around the Portland, Vancouver area. Tons of power, good acceleration, good mileage. Couldn't be happier. All my previous trucks were gas, love this 6.7. Only issue I have had so far is leaking batteries, they were both just replaced under warranty a few weeks back.
440 HP, 925 lb-ft Torque get some! Also, every time I look at my massive 3 inch receiver hitch I smile lol.
Thanks man!
with my budget I'm even start looking at some 2017 left overs. how happy are you with your dealer and would you refer him to me?
6.2/6.7. It all depends on your wants, needs, and what makes financial sense. I’m production manager for a roofing company. We also plow snow for one of the major RR. My old truck was a very nice 96 f250 XLT ext cab long box 7.3. It had 360k miles on it. Our company has 2 2015 srwf350 6.7’s. One lariat (the owners truck) and one XLT. I’ve drove, and have always had pretty much full access to the XLT. The business went through a partnership breakup and it was the old partners truck. Now it is kinda an extra truck.to be honest, I could have claimed that truck for mine 2 years ago but I like my truck allowance and owning my own truck just Incase anything crazy ever happened. The 6.7 has a ton of power! It’s really a blast to drive, but they are also needy damn trucks. Need coolant checked, need def fluid, need filters and oil changed. Filters and oil are $250-$300 every other and just oil ranges from $120-150 depending on where you get it done. Yes you can do these yourself, but as a business I have a general rule that I try to follow. ‘’I don’t work on vehicles that work for me’’. I just don’t have time. With my truck getting up in the mid 300k I new it was time for an upgrade. I need, a 3/4-1ton truck that has the capacity to carry a big p;ow, and a poly in-bed salt spreader. I need a truck that would hual my jeep and steel deck car hauler. I need the payments to be in the low 700’s tops! After looking at theused Diesle market I came to the realization that buying a new gas truck with a warranty and very low maintenance costs or risk of downtime was my best option. I carefully ordered my truck to get everything I needed, most of what I wanted, and at a price I could afford.
2018 CCSB XLT premium F350. 6.2, 4:30 gears, center counsel, rear sliding glass, upfitters, duel batt, ultimate camera pkg., 18’’ A/T tires, snow plow prep, led box lighting, Magnetic Metalic. My OTD price with gap ins. was 48,600 with a sticker price of 53,600. I left $1300 on the table not financing with Ford, but Ally gave me a rate of 1.3% less then Ford offered. For me, I’m completely happy with my purchase, and I think I made the smartest decision. The 6.7 is a powerhouse, but if I’m the one that’s got to foot the maintenance bill I’ll take the gasser! This 6.2is no slouch, it is nothing like the old 460’s or 5.4’s in the old gasser trucks.
6.2/6.7. It all depends on your wants, needs, and what makes financial sense. I’m production manager for a roofing company. We also plow snow for one of the major RR. My old truck was a very nice 96 f250 XLT ext cab long box 7.3. It had 360k miles on it. Our company has 2 2015 srwf350 6.7’s. One lariat (the owners truck) and one XLT. I’ve drove, and have always had pretty much full access to the XLT. The business went through a partnership breakup and it was the old partners truck. Now it is kinda an extra truck.to be honest, I could have claimed that truck for mine 2 years ago but I like my truck allowance and owning my own truck just Incase anything crazy ever happened. The 6.7 has a ton of power! It’s really a blast to drive, but they are also needy damn trucks. Need coolant checked, need def fluid, need filters and oil changed. Filters and oil are $250-$300 every other and just oil ranges from $120-150 depending on where you get it done. Yes you can do these yourself, but as a business I have a general rule that I try to follow. ‘’I don’t work on vehicles that work for me’’. I just don’t have time. With my truck getting up in the mid 300k I new it was time for an upgrade. I need, a 3/4-1ton truck that has the capacity to carry a big p;ow, and a poly in-bed salt spreader. I need a truck that would hual my jeep and steel deck car hauler. I need the payments to be in the low 700’s tops! After looking at theused Diesle market I came to the realization that buying a new gas truck with a warranty and very low maintenance costs or risk of downtime was my best option. I carefully ordered my truck to get everything I needed, most of what I wanted, and at a price I could afford.
2018 CCSB XLT premium F350. 6.2, 4:30 gears, center counsel, rear sliding glass, upfitters, duel batt, ultimate camera pkg., 18’’ A/T tires, snow plow prep, led box lighting, Magnetic Metalic. My OTD price with gap ins. was 48,600 with a sticker price of 53,600. I left $1300 on the table not financing with Ford, but Ally gave me a rate of 1.3% less then Ford offered. For me, I’m completely happy with my purchase, and I think I made the smartest decision. The 6.7 is a powerhouse, but if I’m the one that’s got to foot the maintenance bill I’ll take the gasser! This 6.2is no slouch, it is nothing like the old 460’s or 5.4’s in the old gasser trucks.
thanks as well for sharing the story, I feel like I can never use enough of them to help my buying decision.
how hard was negotiating the price down to what you wanted?
First time new buyer, I went to the guy my boss uses. It was pretty strait forward with him. No hagleing at at all. I did have an x plan available from my neighbor, but I’m pretty sure I did better. Like I said I pad 5k under sticker without the Ford Financing rebate. I put 2600 down and my payment is $680 a month.
This left me with money to buy ladder racks ($1100), linex, husky floor liners, ceramic coat (diy), Raptor steering wheel upgrade, tailgate soft lowering kit, and Raptor running boards.
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