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So, I'm thinking of moving on from my 2005 F-250 V10 with 70K miles on the odometer...and my 2016 F-150 3.5 EB. I have two trucks because I prefer to tow my 35', 9,000 pound travel trailer with the heft of the Super Duty. The F-150 is my daily driver. I am strongly considering selling the V10 and trading in the F-150, consolidating to a new F-250. I am toying with the idea of actually going with the 6.7 PSD but the 6.2 with 4:30 gears is a real possibility as well. Either way, I plan to custom order my next truck to get exactly what I want and nothing that I don't. It will be a very well optioned Lariat. I am fortunate enough to receive a monthly car allowance through my employer. That offsets a significant portion of my monthly truck payment and includes a gas card that covers my fuel expenses. Yes, I am very grateful for this benefit. No, the 2005 V10 does not qualify (unfortunately) for that program but my current 2016 F-150 does. Maintenance, registration, insurance, etc. is my responsibility.
Here is the thing, I love my V10. Clifford the Big Red Truck is kind of like a part of the family. Even my wife and teenage kids feel the same. He has taken us on many great adventures. The F-150 is a wonderful truck but is just a tool to get from point A to point B. It has always felt a bit odd to own two trucks and it seems logical to have a single vehicle that can meet all of my requirements.
So, should I make the jump? Will a 6.2 satisfy me after years of towing with a 6.8? Should I seriously consider going to the dark side and buy a PSD? Would I tire of daily driving (50 miles round trip) a CC, LB truck?
How long do you keep your vehicles? The diesel will have a much higher resale value with more miles. If you rack them up for work, the diesel may be better. I had a 2012 6.7 and it towed amazing. I sold it to get the 2000 v10 as I pretty much just use the truck for camping and taking the dogs places. I daily drove the 2012 cclb for about a year and it’s not fun to park but damn do you feel safe. Sounds like you have a decision to make.
Another thought would be, how much work do you use it for other than just the trailer. Having a vehicle that you don't mind if it gets some abuse is always nice. It's hard to stomach a ding or scratch on a brand new vehicle, but maybe hauling away trees or garbage in big red won't be such a problem.
I feel the same way about my '01 V10 - it's been through many adventures, and my kids (and somewhat my wife) look at it with nostalgia. I can't believe it'll be 18 years old soon.
Anyway, all I can say is... get an extended warranty on that 6.7. You know why
Another thought would be, how much work do you use it for other than just the trailer. Having a vehicle that you don't mind if it gets some abuse is always nice. It's hard to stomach a ding or scratch on a brand new vehicle, but maybe hauling away trees or garbage in big red won't be such a problem.
Clifford's primary job is to tow our trailer. He also makes plenty of trips to home depot and the occasional dump run. I also drive him to work once a week. I use him like a truck but never abuse him. He is far from perfect but looks about as good as a 2005 truck can look. Yes, I'm aware that I cannot bring myself to refer to my truck as "it". He is a "he" to me. I'm wondering if it makes sense or if I'm ready to move on at this point. Maybe I need to get some seat time in a plush new Super Duty to bring me around.
As much as I like the new trucks, that's a sharp truck. Being an 05 you have the 3V i think?, while nowhere near the 6.7L power, it's still a great truck. You'll have no problem selling it that's for sure.
Clifford's primary job is to tow our trailer. He also makes plenty of trips to home depot and the occasional dump run. I also drive him to work once a week. I use him like a truck but never abuse him. He is far from perfect but looks about as good as a 2005 truck can look. Yes, I'm aware that I cannot bring myself to refer to my truck as "it". He is a "he" to me. I'm wondering if it makes sense or if I'm ready to move on at this point. Maybe I need to get some seat time in a plush new Super Duty to bring me around.
looks like it’s 4wd... I’m out.
Not that I was ever “in” lol
Your logic makes good sense, but are you ready to pay all that money for a truck and take the hit for the first few years of depreciation? If you bought a 3-4 year old truck, would it still qualify for the stipend from your employer? I totally get your desire to order the truck exactly how you want it. Look at the cost of the truck, not just the payment. And, if you change jobs, you still get to make the big truck paymente
Your logic makes good sense, but are you ready to pay all that money for a truck and take the hit for the first few years of depreciation? If you bought a 3-4 year old truck, would it still qualify for the stipend from your employer? I totally get your desire to order the truck exactly how you want it. Look at the cost of the truck, not just the payment. And, if you change jobs, you still get to make the big truck paymente
Clifford the Big Red Truck is awesome!
In order to qualify for the allowance, the vehicle needs to be a model year 7 years old or newer. So, I could buy a used truck but as soon as it doesn't meet that requirement, the payments stop. To maximize the benefit, I need to buy a new truck. For example, if I bought a 2018 off the lot right now, I would qualify for the allowance through December 31, 2025. At the end of that term I would own the truck outright having paid little or potentially nothing out of pocket. The benefit would even be greater if I purchased a 2019 a couple months from now because the payments would extend through the end of 2026. See, they are begging me to buy the newest truck possible! Also, I'm not interested in a 2016 or older because it's basically be the same truck I already have or at least not different enough to justify the change. When it comes to new car purchases, I am a total cost guy. The payment is an afterthought...within reason. For instance, after shopping numerous dealerships, the lowest out the door deal I could get for my current F-150 involved foregoing all cash incentives (there were very few at the time) and taking the dealer's discount and 0% financing for six years.I love the fact that every dollar of my monthly payment pays down the principal. Never say never but I am probably secure in my job. I have worked for the same company for 30 years and we have a nice backlog for the next few years.
No matter what I eventually choose to do, Clifford has at least one last road trip in him. Next weekend we head out for a 15 night, 2000 mile trip from San Diego through the Eastern Sierra Nevada Mountains (Hwy 395), into Southern Oregon and down through the California Redwoods before returning home. I'm sure Clifford will perform amazingly and get compliments in every campground along the way!
Just completed our road trip and as predicted, Clifford performed excellently. We drove a total of 2404 miles. 1848 miles towing and 556 unhitched. MPG towing was 6.5 and overall it was 7.38. We started at sea level and climbed to over 8,000 feet in the first 400 miles and there was no shortage of elevation change for the rest of the trip as well. Plenty of long climbs on 6%-7% grades (Grapevine, Siskiyou, etc.) at 4250 RPM in third gear at 55 MPH. Less intense climbs were generally at 3200 RPM in fourth. This was some serious towing and is typical of our longer trips. Total fuel cost for the trip was $1,244, an average of $3.82 per gallon for regular. Let's be honest, those fuel "economy" numbers are pretty bad. Also, after spending that much time driving in a 2005 XLT then coming home and jumping in a 2016 F150 Lariat really makes the old truck feel dated...still comfortable, but dated. On our drive, the wife and I talked quite a bit about a new truck and she is actually a proponent of upgrading and also is in favor of getting a loaded new diesel truck to make sure that we have the capability and comfort that will keep me satisfied for years to come. I'm not saying it is a 100% certainty, but I feel like I'm strongly leaning towards moving on.
Move on, I did and don't regret it at the least...other than I can't find any buyers for our X. Issues with the 6.7 are greatly exaggerated. Mine has had the turn signal switch replaced(?) and last week the reductant heater assembly died. All was covered under normal warranty.
See my ad in the marketplace if you're interested. I'm in San Diego County. I feel a little sick. My 19 year old daughter just told me that she will never forgive me for selling Clifford. She would prefer that I sold her human brother!
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