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Old Jul 13, 2018 | 07:47 AM
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Bent Front Axle

Got into a bit of a dust up and it looks like the right front axle end (where the spindle hooks up ) is bent.

Axles are few and far between on the 17+ models. I can't seem to find out if there is any cross over with the previous model years (2016 and below) and these ones. Does anyone know?

 
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Old Jul 13, 2018 | 10:12 AM
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It may help to look at the part numbers which will take some research. If they are the same then you know you are good and if they are not you need to find out what the difference is. Maybe someone will know.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2018 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Busa 1 Dave
It may help to look at the part numbers which will take some research. If they are the same then you know you are good and if they are not you need to find out what the difference is. Maybe someone will know.
Busa (I'm guessing that is a Hayabusa), see the attached picture.

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Old Jul 14, 2018 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TJTruck
Got into a bit of a dust up and it looks like the right front axle end (where the spindle hooks up ) is bent.

Axles are few and far between on the 17+ models. I can't seem to find out if there is any cross over with the previous model years (2016 and below) and these ones. Does anyone know?
TJTruck,

Must have been one heck of a “dust up”. Are you referring to the axle shaft or housing? I don’t believe the front axle assemble has changed and is the same 35 spline Super Dana 60 which has been used for many years on the Super Duties. There are a lot of after market parts/pieces available, such as outer/inner Cs, axle shafts. If you’re referring to a bent housing, they can be straightened but may be more economical to get a new housing.

Also, glad to see someone else with 3:31 ratio. Thought I was the only one.......

Mike
 
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Old Jul 14, 2018 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TJTruck
Got into a bit of a dust up and it looks like the right front axle end (where the spindle hooks up ) is bent.

Axles are few and far between on the 17+ models. I can't seem to find out if there is any cross over with the previous model years (2016 and below) and these ones. Does anyone know?
Any Dana 60 housing in standard width from 2005 up will fit. There are small changes in brackets on how the shocks are mounted and the track bar ball joint is flipped but nothing to worry about from a fabrication standpoint.

The only issue I see is that the 2017+ super 60s use a larger pinion with a Dana 80 sized yoke, you would need to buy a 1410 series standard dana 60 yoke to accept your driveshaft and new 3.31 gears for a standard 60. The pinion in your existing housing won't fit a pre-2017 housing.

Also, surprised you bent the inner-C, these axles are beef. Seen a 2017 F-250 clear 75ft jump 15 ft in the air with no damage to axle.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2018 | 05:54 PM
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i thought it was 100' jump ? thats what you said last time. its your story so tell it how ever you want i guess. theres a raptor jumping on youtube, it doesnt fair out well at all
 
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Old Jul 15, 2018 | 11:41 AM
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i thought it was 100' jump ? thats what you said last time. its your story so tell it how ever you want i guess. theres a raptor jumping on youtube, it doesnt fair out well at all
You know, you're right, it was a 100' jump. I watched the video again. I counted over 5 truck lengths; a CCSB SD is about 20' long.

Here it is:



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Old Jul 15, 2018 | 03:16 PM
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hmm. all this time i assumed it was a stock truck they jumped. appears it was anything but stock. is that full king coil overs i see ? all makes sense now. axles bend when they crash into bump stops and the energy has no place to go. find a stock superduty jumping and see what happens. probly explode at the seams just like the youtube raptor did

sterling 10.5. type in tube twisting on google. enough said

i think the writing is on the wall regarding the m300.

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Old Jul 15, 2018 | 07:16 PM
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hmm. all this time i assumed it was a stock truck they jumped. appears it was anything but stock. is that full king coil overs i see ? all makes sense now. axles bend when they crash into bump stops and the energy has no place to go. find a stock superduty jumping and see what happens. probly explode at the seams just like the youtube raptor did

sterling 10.5. type in tube twisting on google. enough said

i think the writing is on the wall regarding the m300.

good day sir
The point was to show that the Super 60 is a beef axle. The axle was stock. The axle did crash into the bump stops upon landing. The tires were 42 inch swampers. The axle housing wasn't bent or damaged. The entire reason why I'm surprised the op bent his axle without totaling his truck.

There's nothing wrong with sterling 10.5 axles don't know why you even brought them up. Tubes don't twist on those with stock tires on a snowy bank. That's just pathetic. Yes some have twisted running 40 inch tires rockcrawling or class 3 tractor pulling. What would you expect to happen?

Also don't know why you brought up the m300, unless it's to support your fallacious strawman argument.

 
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 12:17 AM
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if i heard the guy correctly, its a custom lewis built suspension system . all the stock stuff has been cut out. its more or less a prerunner truck now. i wonder what the total bill was. 15k ? just a guess. surely it has king air bump stops as well. hek why not, everything else under there is king stuff. anyways, no one said its a bad axle, but lets do the same jump with a stock super duty and inspect the running gear.

 
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 01:18 AM
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Is there a problem with the M300 I'm unaware of?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Alaskan_Warbird
Is there a problem with the M300 I'm unaware of?
Only speculation by guys that think the S110 was a better axle because we have heard of two M300 setup failures (of 100,000 trucks) here on the forum.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 11:09 AM
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Okay. I've heard only Good Things about these axles but am finding it frustrating not being able to find hard specs from Dana on them. I frequently carry a lot of weight in mine. When I research D-451-A, I come up with Dana docs on a D-451-P that's rated at 40,000 pounds.

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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 12:53 PM
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umm theres been more than two instances of m300 with whining gears. i think theres about five or so, just in the dsltrk thread alone. imo the jurys still out and only time will tell but it doesnt look good. just my opinion. off hand i cant recall a 10.5 with bad gears. but alot of people never visit the internet, so the true number of m300 with bad gears may never be known. could be zero or hundreds/thousands. we just dont know
 
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 05:13 PM
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WTF???...How can you say "the truck lived"? If you are leaking coolant after that jump with a truck that is NOT stock then I don't agree that it lived. Maybe if you jumped it in your back yard you could drive it home. Come on out with me to a SCORE, BITD, or SNORE race and blow your radiator 100 miles from the nearest pits...see if you can make it to the pits. That truck was now way near stock.
 
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