Fox 2.0 or Rancho 9000?
#32
05-30-2018, 05:23 PM
Save that receipt.
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#33
05-30-2018, 05:26 PM
Laughing Gas
two questions:
1) assuming these part #'s are the same for a F350 PSD?
2) I'll likely be leveling by changing out the rear blocks with shorter ones which most forum members are saying gives about a 1.5" drop of the rear body. Will these still work?
Thanks
David
1) assuming these part #'s are the same for a F350 PSD?
2) I'll likely be leveling by changing out the rear blocks with shorter ones which most forum members are saying gives about a 1.5" drop of the rear body. Will these still work?
Thanks
David
#34
05-30-2018, 05:30 PM
Former Vendor
1) Correct
2) I haven't heard about "leveling" the rear, just the front. So I can not 100% say "sure" on 47A still working honestly. If stock is working I can only assume these will too...
2) I haven't heard about "leveling" the rear, just the front. So I can not 100% say "sure" on 47A still working honestly. If stock is working I can only assume these will too...
#36
05-30-2018, 10:27 PM
while you may think that is helpful to the discussion, you’ve offered nothing of substance. Is this based on your personal experience with 9000XLs and Fox shocks, or are you regurgitating what you’ve read on the internet? As much as I hate Rancho for selling out to ford and allowing them to sell crappy shocks branded “Rancho”, it doesn’t change what the 9000XL is. Rancho has a bad name and it’s all because of those choice to license their name for FX4 junk. Now they pay the price on message boards. But... I’ve never known anyone to use Fox, Bilstein, or (real) Rancho shocks and say any of them are junk.
#37
05-30-2018, 10:49 PM
while you may think that is helpful to the discussion, you’ve offered nothing of substance. Is this based on your personal experience with 9000XLs and Fox shocks, or are you regurgitating what you’ve read on the internet? As much as I hate Rancho for selling out to ford and allowing them to sell crappy shocks branded “Rancho”, it doesn’t change what the 9000XL is. Rancho has a bad name and it’s all because of those choice to license their name for FX4 junk. Now they pay the price on message boards. But... I’ve never known anyone to use Fox, Bilstein, or (real) Rancho shocks and say any of them are junk.
#38
05-31-2018, 06:16 AM
while you may think that is helpful to the discussion, you’ve offered nothing of substance. Is this based on your personal experience with 9000XLs and Fox shocks, or are you regurgitating what you’ve read on the internet? As much as I hate Rancho for selling out to ford and allowing them to sell crappy shocks branded “Rancho”, it doesn’t change what the 9000XL is. Rancho has a bad name and it’s all because of those choice to license their name for FX4 junk. Now they pay the price on message boards. But... I’ve never known anyone to use Fox, Bilstein, or (real) Rancho shocks and say any of them are junk.
#39
05-31-2018, 06:28 AM
Yes I have. I have two rock crawlers with high end dampers. I had a 2005 Cummins 4x4 lifted and a new SD. I have had them all plus Bilstein. I’ll go even further. I race cars and have MCS 2 way adjustable non-remote reservoir on an M3 and JRZ RS Pro 2 way adjustable with remote reservoir on a GT3. I know just a little bit about dampers.
#40
05-31-2018, 06:59 AM
They fail much earlier than the other top brands. Warranty aside, I don’t have time to mess around with swapping them when they fail prematurely. The high speed compression is not as good, and the rebound is not as good. A single adjustable damper has to valve for some middle of the road compression and rebound. Rancho just didn’t pick that spot as well as others. If I hit a speed bump it felt like I needed dental work. Most folks can get low speed compression right, but not high speed. Most ignore rebound because they don’t think the consumer will notice. Rancho fits into that category. For the same money, there are other dampers that address these two points much better.
#41
05-31-2018, 09:08 AM
Former Vendor
To clarify the RS9000XL **** adjusts for rebound and dampening.
These shocks will benefit 99.9% of the users out there.
Not too many folks are taking their $60K truck prerunning.
They fail much earlier than the other top brands. Warranty aside, I don’t have time to mess around with swapping them when they fail prematurely. The high speed compression is not as good, and the rebound is not as good. A single adjustable damper has to valve for some middle of the road compression and rebound. Rancho just didn’t pick that spot as well as others. If I hit a speed bump it felt like I needed dental work. Most folks can get low speed compression right, but not high speed. Most ignore rebound because they don’t think the consumer will notice. Rancho fits into that category. For the same money, there are other dampers that address these two points much better.
These shocks will benefit 99.9% of the users out there.
Not too many folks are taking their $60K truck prerunning.
They fail much earlier than the other top brands. Warranty aside, I don’t have time to mess around with swapping them when they fail prematurely. The high speed compression is not as good, and the rebound is not as good. A single adjustable damper has to valve for some middle of the road compression and rebound. Rancho just didn’t pick that spot as well as others. If I hit a speed bump it felt like I needed dental work. Most folks can get low speed compression right, but not high speed. Most ignore rebound because they don’t think the consumer will notice. Rancho fits into that category. For the same money, there are other dampers that address these two points much better.
#42
05-31-2018, 10:14 AM
That's not a 2-way damper. Rancho is using one **** to adjust compression and rebound simultaneously like a Koni. Compression and rebound clicks have to be adjusted separately to be considered a 2-way damper. They are doing completely different things. Just because I want more rebound, does not mean I want more compression. For those same 99.9%, they would be better off with Bilstein 5100s. They are all just driving down the highway. The better bang for the buck is to replace them more often. Most people would not know a properly dampered vehicle regardless. That is why they keep driving on dampers well past their life expectancy. I get my JRZ rebuilt every 2 race seasons and throw away my Spec Miata Bilsteins after 2 race seasons. People drive dampers until the seals leak thus defeating the purpose of high end dampers.
#44
05-31-2018, 10:30 AM
Former Vendor
Being able to adjust the **** and get the ride you want is way better than not being able to with a non adjustable shock. Be it with one **** or two.
And comparing race cars and rock crawlers to a truck. Different animals, wouldn't you say? I rarely see trucks racing around the track and I have never seen a new truck racing ULTRA4.
Most shock manufacturers say about 50,000 miles is the time to change shocks. So every few years.
Be it with one **** or two.And comparing race cars and rock crawlers to a truck. Different animals, wouldn't you say? I rarely see trucks racing around the track and I have never seen a new truck racing ULTRA4.
Most shock manufacturers say about 50,000 miles is the time to change shocks. So every few years.
That's not a 2-way damper. Rancho is using one **** to adjust compression and rebound simultaneously like a Koni. Compression and rebound clicks have to be adjusted separately to be considered a 2-way damper. They are doing completely different things. Just because I want more rebound, does not mean I want more compression. For those same 99.9%, they would be better off with Bilstein 5100s. They are all just driving down the highway. The better bang for the buck is to replace them more often. Most people would not know a properly dampered vehicle regardless. That is why they keep driving on dampers well past their life expectancy. I get my JRZ rebuilt every 2 race seasons and throw away my Spec Miata Bilsteins after 2 race seasons. People drive dampers until the seals leak thus defeating the purpose of high end dampers.
#45
05-31-2018, 10:30 AM
Former Vendor