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Old May 11, 2018 | 01:46 PM
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Not the clutch interlock switch

Well.....suddenly my truck will not spin over and I figured it was the clutch interlock switch (5 speed manual) so I replaced it and......not the problem.

I tried to find out how to check the switch before I purchased a new one, but couldn't find that information anywhere.

So.....if it's NOT the clutch interlock switch.....what else?

I can turn the ignition on and cross across the starter solenoid with a screwdriver and it starts right up.

That little red wire that goes to the solenoid shows about 3.5 volts so there is a signal going to the solenoid.

But, if I can start it with a screwdriver, does that mean the solenoid is good?

Thought for sure it was the clutch switch.......but.....as usual.....it's something else.
 
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Old May 11, 2018 | 05:03 PM
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I believe this is a pre92 setup, but if you are referring to this red wire... it should have 12 volts to engage the solenoid. I do not believe 3.5 is enough to energize the coil and pull it in.


 
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Old May 11, 2018 | 05:42 PM
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Yea....that wire.
With a testor it's not getting 12v when I put the positive lead from the testor in the wire and ground the black.

What in the world would prevent that from happening if not the clutch switch?
 
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Old May 11, 2018 | 06:58 PM
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Are you getting that all the time or just with someone pushing the clutch and turning the key?

If while pushing the clutch and turning the key, i'd say bad switch in the column. If all the time, i'd say bad wiring.
 
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Old May 12, 2018 | 04:19 AM
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what year truck?
it could be a bad ignition switch, or a bad upper actuator not allowing the switch to fully make contact.
 
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Old May 12, 2018 | 02:05 PM
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It's a 1991 F250 with a 351w - 5 speed manual.

It started acting up and it seemed like if I played the clutch it would start and then .... it just quit throwing power to the starter.

I got a cheap replacement from ebay and it didn't do anything......so either that replacement is bad or it's not the issue.

If I can find out how to bypass the switch with jumper wires that would tell me if it's the switch or not.
 
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Old May 12, 2018 | 02:47 PM
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Idk the colors on a 91, but the harness for a 94 and 95 there are red wires with a blue stripe that need to be jumped together to bypass the switch
 
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Old May 12, 2018 | 03:32 PM
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it could also be a worn bushing in the clutch pedal not allowing the pedal arm to depress the switch, or it could also be a broken firewall allowing the clutch master cylinder to flex causing the switch to not close.
 
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Old May 12, 2018 | 04:55 PM
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Bushing is fine, firewall is sturdy.....I still think it's the clutch switch.....but what are the chances of a cheap Chinese part being defective right out of the box?

Here is a photo of my plug.....anyone bypassed this one before?


top-bottom blue/yellow purple/white green green red/blue red/blue
 
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Old May 12, 2018 | 05:14 PM
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...but what are the chances of a cheap Chinese part being defective right out of the box?
Now that's funny right there. Not sure if I heard the sarcasm in your statement, or if you've been lucky enough to not have run across it before. But the state of the cheap imported parts these days is literally the top Pet Peeve of ours in most of the forums.
If not The top one, then at least in the top three.
Starter relays, ignition switches, voltage regulators, brake pads and shoes, neutral safety switches, and starter relays. Yes, I mention those twice. Not repeating myself by accident either. Just emphasizing the futility of hoping for more than a 60% chance of getting a good one. Chances go down as quickly as the prices. The percentage of successfully working parts goes up slightly at the higher prices, but has not gone away completely yet. But we keep trying!

Looks like easy enough access in your case. Give a small jumper wire a try. Looks like you may not even have to unplug the connector.
Just push the wire into both cavities with the Red w/blue wires from the outside to temporarily jumper them together.

Crossing fingers that's the issue, but if not at least you're narrowing things down.

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Old May 12, 2018 | 05:16 PM
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Hmm, now that I look at the diagram, better wait for someone more well versed in modern electrical setups on the Fords.
On early models, it was a simple matter of jumping the two sides of the Red w/blue together to complete the circuit. Not sure that's how the switch works in your case though. Hopefully someone can confirm or deny my previous answer.

Good luck.

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Old May 12, 2018 | 10:18 PM
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Just use a multimeter on the continuity setting put the leads on both bl/r wires and depress the clutch. If it goes to continuity then the switch is closing and making contact. Then, go from one wire to ground and hit the key and look for voltage. And repeat with the other. If you get 12v at each then the problem is some where else.
 
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Old May 14, 2018 | 12:40 PM
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Well, it's more perplexing right now.....

I have continuity on the red/blue wires but I only have power to the solid green wire next to the red/blue wires......no other wires have 12v with key on and clutch down or up
 
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Old May 14, 2018 | 04:25 PM
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Did you jumper the red/blue wires to see if it starts?
 
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Old May 14, 2018 | 08:41 PM
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No I didn't, I figured if it had continuity those wires should have connected?

I'll try jumping them and see what happens.

I can start it at the solenoid with a screwdriver just fine though
 
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