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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 04:56 PM
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map sensor

1988 f150 with 5.0 what would cause my map sensor to fail every few thousand miles, have 5 volts and good ground. truck goes into limp home mode put new map in and runs fine for awhile
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 05:16 PM
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I might be wrong but I was just having an issue and I think you need more then 5 volts
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 05:23 PM
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Nevermind I was thinking about the ground testing
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 05:23 PM
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if you’re buying aftermarket parts that maybe just how long they last. Sad but true.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 05:26 PM
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Rockauto has a motocraft map for $100
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 05:58 PM
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been using rock auto bought some of the cheaper maps but not the ford one, but i did get one through autozone , the best they had with same results
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 05:59 PM
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And you're sure it's the parts themselves, and not something wrong with the wiring and/or connector?
Just wondering if messing about with the wiring when you're changing the sensors is what's "fixing" the problem temporarily.

But yeah, new stuff is a crapshoot. Just like starter relays, I'd search the junkyard for a cheap factory original before buying a new one anymore.
I know there are good ones, and "new" is always a cool thing. But with the crap we're getting nowadays causing so many issues, the junkyard is actually a very good source of parts now.
Not sure what the dealer would charge, if they even still carry the part (doubtful after this many years maybe) but it's probably quite a bit.

Good luck.

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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 06:08 PM
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I have looked at wireing and nothing obvious stands out but i will look at again and replace connector thanx for input
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 06:10 PM
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I was about to buy a cheap map sensor off rockauto because I had code 22. after inspecting the wiring a found some wire got melted a little because they were testing on the motor near the passenger side exhaust manifold .
I would just shake the wires and it would start working , shake them again and it would stop.
if no damaged wires maybe consider the pcm?

I don't have much experience with these trucks but from what iv researched it has to be the map , wiring or pc.

do you get code 22 ?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 06:15 PM
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great video what kind of meter was you using seen snapon but not model
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 06:17 PM
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yes code 22 is one says map is out of range
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 06:24 PM
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Vantage Pro I think it's called. Pretty sure they have more than one model of the same thing, with various capabilities. But not sure. Friend just bought a brand new one last month and it's pretty darn trick. Even he's pretty chuffed with it, and he's a bit jaded about such things.
When looking to replace a Sears unit that batteries killed recently, I noticed that they had a similar one as well. At least in packaging, if not performance. Might be worth checking out as well, if you're not a die-hard adherent to Snap-On specifically.

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Old Apr 27, 2018 | 02:36 AM
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As the SMA video above shows, our MAP sensor locations are vulnerable to water ingress. Over the years I have had water get into a couple MAPs. Relocating the replacements a little farther away from the hood seam fixed the issue.

Re: scan tool: I recommend the Actron CP9690 for EEC-IV stuff. Gives you codes and the ability to read some live data.
 
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I was thinking if he also added a shim to tilt the unit so that the connector was pointing down, it might help as well. But if the cover really wasn't sealed that well in the first place, that would not have done much good.
And besides, if the connectors are the typical weather-resistant type (assuming so) then that's probably not where the water was getting in to begin with. Relocation then, seems the best way to go.

I think I have one of those Actron units for sale if anyone is interested. I have a couple different ones that I've never used.

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Old Apr 27, 2018 | 02:51 PM
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yes the location is poor and the more i think about it the problem happens more in the winter and rainy season I will relocate and seal thanx for the inputs it is driving me bonkers
 
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