2018 vs 2016 6.7 Diesel?
#31
04-21-2018, 08:18 AM
I special ordered my 2018 250 diesel with the push start and will never go back. Very nice. I wish the heavy duties would have the dial shifter like i had in my dodge ram. I miss it. I also miss the front park assist. I can't believe the 250's don't have this. They sit so damn high and i can't see squat when pulling into a parking space. Yes, i can use the 360 camera but its not the same. I also got the extended running boards so i can get into my toolbox.
Either way, I'm going to end up with the stupid push button start, it appears. I can't find a Lariat Value Package with the sunroof and all my other wants within a 700 mile radius.
And, what is the Snow Plow Package, and why do all the dealers in South Georgia order their trucks with it? There is no snow in Georgia, and no need for a front end attachment. Doesn't that just increase the stiffness of the front springs, and make the ride worse when unloaded?
#33
04-21-2018, 09:54 AM
Laughing Gas
So, you never worry about the button breaking and having no other way to crank your truck? I just don't understand the technology. You upgrade or replace things to make them more usable and reliable....not to create potential problems on something that has never, ever failed. The key fob with the flip out key is a great tool, and is very small in your pocket. If there were a keyhole as a backup emergency to crank your truck if the button failed, I'd be more receptive to it. I know I sound like I'm 80. I'm only 40 and I love technology. But, creating more things that can break on a truck just seems like a poor idea to me.
Either way, I'm going to end up with the stupid push button start, it appears. I can't find a Lariat Value Package with the sunroof and all my other wants within a 700 mile radius.
And, what is the Snow Plow Package, and why do all the dealers in South Georgia order their trucks with it? There is no snow in Georgia, and no need for a front end attachment. Doesn't that just increase the stiffness of the front springs, and make the ride worse when unloaded?
Either way, I'm going to end up with the stupid push button start, it appears. I can't find a Lariat Value Package with the sunroof and all my other wants within a 700 mile radius.
And, what is the Snow Plow Package, and why do all the dealers in South Georgia order their trucks with it? There is no snow in Georgia, and no need for a front end attachment. Doesn't that just increase the stiffness of the front springs, and make the ride worse when unloaded?
#34
04-21-2018, 11:10 AM
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#36
04-21-2018, 06:50 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong but the key switch in modern vehicles don’t send power directly to the starter anymore. The switch in the colum has a dry contact that when closed sends a signal to a computer to start the truck. You can tell this because if you just bump the switch to the start position and let it go the engine will crank until it starts even though you released the key a 1/2sec prior.
A keyless start button would in theory be more reliable because there’s no moving parts or mechanical contacts.
edit:
come to think of it a dry contact is old school...it’s probably a CANBUS signal. Lol
The keyless button or you old fashioned key says “start truck” to the trucks computer.
that computer talks to a security module and it says “ hey! Key transponder! Are you there?” Your key or fob responds “yea I’m here, I’m legit”.
The security module tells the truck computer it’s ok to engage the starter until the truck starts or until the starter times out.
A keyless start button would in theory be more reliable because there’s no moving parts or mechanical contacts.
edit:
come to think of it a dry contact is old school...it’s probably a CANBUS signal. Lol
The keyless button or you old fashioned key says “start truck” to the trucks computer.
that computer talks to a security module and it says “ hey! Key transponder! Are you there?” Your key or fob responds “yea I’m here, I’m legit”.
The security module tells the truck computer it’s ok to engage the starter until the truck starts or until the starter times out.
#37
04-21-2018, 09:36 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong but the key switch in modern vehicles don’t send power directly to the starter anymore. The switch in the colum has a dry contact that when closed sends a signal to a computer to start the truck. You can tell this because if you just bump the switch to the start position and let it go the engine will crank until it starts even though you released the key a 1/2sec prior.
A keyless start button would in theory be more reliable because there’s no moving parts or mechanical contacts.
edit:
come to think of it a dry contact is old school...it’s probably a CANBUS signal. Lol
The keyless button or you old fashioned key says “start truck” to the trucks computer.
that computer talks to a security module and it says “ hey! Key transponder! Are you there?” Your key or fob responds “yea I’m here, I’m legit”.
The security module tells the truck computer it’s ok to engage the starter until the truck starts or until the starter times out.
A keyless start button would in theory be more reliable because there’s no moving parts or mechanical contacts.
edit:
come to think of it a dry contact is old school...it’s probably a CANBUS signal. Lol
The keyless button or you old fashioned key says “start truck” to the trucks computer.
that computer talks to a security module and it says “ hey! Key transponder! Are you there?” Your key or fob responds “yea I’m here, I’m legit”.
The security module tells the truck computer it’s ok to engage the starter until the truck starts or until the starter times out.
#38
04-22-2018, 11:48 AM
Get a Lariat ultimate with the LED lighting and never look back. Don’t forget about all the options like fifth wheel and gooseneck prep, dual alternators, extra HD, 360cameras, Cab high mount camera at least. Whichever year you get really look closely at these options because adding them after the fact while can be done, should be written into your deal. Get the dealer to do it and it’s warranty covered.
#39
04-22-2018, 04:40 PM
I have everything I want picked out....except the color. Can't decide between the two tone white platinum, or the Magnetic. I'm thinking white, because my last 3 trucks have been charcoal grey. Never had a white truck before. And the white looks the cleanest and best on the lot with all the pollen on it.
#40
04-29-2018, 05:15 AM
I have everything I want picked out....except the color. Can't decide between the two tone white platinum, or the Magnetic. I'm thinking white, because my last 3 trucks have been charcoal grey. Never had a white truck before. And the white looks the cleanest and best on the lot with all the pollen on it.
Trying to add a link. Scroll to bottom of this thread to see my truck. I really like the retractable power steps.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-two-tone.html
Last edited by dnoel; 04-29-2018 at 05:20 AM. Reason: add link
#41
04-29-2018, 08:48 AM
My truck is white with magnetic on the bottom. I really like it. Don't have a pic to post but, a search should find you one.
Trying to add a link. Scroll to bottom of this thread to see my truck. I really like the retractable power steps.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-two-tone.html
Trying to add a link. Scroll to bottom of this thread to see my truck. I really like the retractable power steps.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-two-tone.html
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