pre 2017 vs 2017?
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pre 2017 vs 2017?
Does anyone have first hand experience towing with an older 6.2 then with the newer 6.2? I am curious if that extra 30 ft lbs of torque at lower RPMs is noticeable.
I have been doing some web shopping for used F250s with a $35k budget and see a mixed bag of XLT 6.2s in my price range but most are the older ones with a few 2017s too. I found a 2015 with a center console that I really like but the 2017 trucks with the increased torque and cosmetic resign are very appealing. One thing I do not like about the 2017s (XLTs) is the rear cup holders on the floor...how the hell do kids reach that and what happened to the rear seat fold down arm rest?
I have been doing some web shopping for used F250s with a $35k budget and see a mixed bag of XLT 6.2s in my price range but most are the older ones with a few 2017s too. I found a 2015 with a center console that I really like but the 2017 trucks with the increased torque and cosmetic resign are very appealing. One thing I do not like about the 2017s (XLTs) is the rear cup holders on the floor...how the hell do kids reach that and what happened to the rear seat fold down arm rest?
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search is your friend.. many have done just what you ask
not the new torque so much... its the re-mapped 'fly by wire' .. more snappy... with the throttle...
but NO HELP... as I do not have a 2017 / 18.. but read a lot.. retired.
not the new torque so much... its the re-mapped 'fly by wire' .. more snappy... with the throttle...
but NO HELP... as I do not have a 2017 / 18.. but read a lot.. retired.
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Most are looking at steel vs aluminum body and in the F250's the 17's now have a lighter duty transmission. I'm sure you can feel a difference between 16 and 17s in the seat, due to reduced weight, remapped trans shift points and remapped fly-by-wire throttle plus the extra torque.
11-16s are getting cheap my 2011 cost $12K. Use the saved money and get the Lariat package instead of an XLT.
11-16s are getting cheap my 2011 cost $12K. Use the saved money and get the Lariat package instead of an XLT.
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I camp alot... no carpet in truck for me.... when the inside gets muddy. I just hose it out...
try that with carpet
also when that fancy electronic stuff.. Fails.... its very pricey to fix..
my opinion.
I will keep my XL... Thank You.
try that with carpet
also when that fancy electronic stuff.. Fails.... its very pricey to fix..
my opinion.
I will keep my XL... Thank You.
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I remember when I was ordering my XL last summer. Was looking at the dealer lots and all they carried was the upper trim models. Test drove them and they just were not for me. Wanted a truck without all the glitter and do-dads that will someday cause problems. Anyway, ordered my truck with every base truck option I wanted to make it a good truck now and years to come. Including the vinyl floor & seats, up-fitter switches, dual batteries, 5th wheel/goose-neck, brake controller, 18" steelies, etc. Love it and if I had to do it all over again I would not change a thing.
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I was never a good looking person... a Cowboy Cadillac is not going to make me look better
your money, your truck.. get what you like.. my opinion.
I was never a good looking person... a Cowboy Cadillac is not going to make me look better
your money, your truck.. get what you like.. my opinion.
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Yeah, I'm more function over form. Call me crazy but I told the wife I'll never own another truck without vinyl seats and floors. A truck is just a tool to get a job done for me.
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I work for the public works department in my town and drive plain Jane, white fleet F350s and 550s on a daily basis and that's the last thing I want to come home to. Similarly, I don't get all crazy about driving the Army surplus M998 Humvee our police department obtained because I drove them for years in the Army.
Anyway, I know there are well equipped XLs with the carpet, electric windows and allow wheels but I don't seem them come up often on the used market in my area. I tow a travel trailer and my family of 4 goes camping often so I want some creature comforts to make the long hauls across the US a bit more tolerable. We just paid off my wife's XLT Explorer (2013) and had zero issues with the vehicle in 5 years...on the other end of the spectrum, the 2013 police Explorer I work on has had a laundry list of mechanical problems.
Anyway, I know there are well equipped XLs with the carpet, electric windows and allow wheels but I don't seem them come up often on the used market in my area. I tow a travel trailer and my family of 4 goes camping often so I want some creature comforts to make the long hauls across the US a bit more tolerable. We just paid off my wife's XLT Explorer (2013) and had zero issues with the vehicle in 5 years...on the other end of the spectrum, the 2013 police Explorer I work on has had a laundry list of mechanical problems.
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I'm on my 11th Ford. Had one lemon, a '98 Expedition and it's still running. I just saw it last week. Our company fleet has been the same. Both the Fords and the GM's have been solid. The FCA's spend more time in the shop. Nothing major but annoying, just the same.
If you're stuck on carpet, you'll probably have to go XLT but you might also look at an STX package.
If you're stuck on carpet, you'll probably have to go XLT but you might also look at an STX package.
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Does anyone have first hand experience towing with an older 6.2 then with the newer 6.2? I am curious if that extra 30 ft lbs of torque at lower RPMs is noticeable.
I have been doing some web shopping for used F250s with a $35k budget and see a mixed bag of XLT 6.2s in my price range but most are the older ones with a few 2017s too. I found a 2015 with a center console that I really like but the 2017 trucks with the increased torque and cosmetic resign are very appealing. One thing I do not like about the 2017s (XLTs) is the rear cup holders on the floor...how the hell do kids reach that and what happened to the rear seat fold down arm rest?
I have been doing some web shopping for used F250s with a $35k budget and see a mixed bag of XLT 6.2s in my price range but most are the older ones with a few 2017s too. I found a 2015 with a center console that I really like but the 2017 trucks with the increased torque and cosmetic resign are very appealing. One thing I do not like about the 2017s (XLTs) is the rear cup holders on the floor...how the hell do kids reach that and what happened to the rear seat fold down arm rest?
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RainDesert, thanks for the info. Ideally, I want a truck with the 4:30 gears but they are hard to find on the used market. My camper is about 6k lbs loaded and we plan to upgrade to a larger camper in a year or 2 and I will probably stay under 10k lbs.
Samsonsworld, I'll look into the STX, I have seen a few newer Super Duties with some funky short, open center console that is so low to the ground it doesn't double as an arm rest...not sure if that is package specific but I've been skipping over those.
Samsonsworld, I'll look into the STX, I have seen a few newer Super Duties with some funky short, open center console that is so low to the ground it doesn't double as an arm rest...not sure if that is package specific but I've been skipping over those.
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