Deep sleep mode problems
I had a similar issue with my 2017 Expedition. After sitting for about a month I tried to start it one day when the roads were dry.
NOTHING! Put my meter on the battery and I got 0.3 volts!
Put a slow (3A) charger on it. Wouldn't take a charge.
Brought the battery inside for two days to let it warm up.
Put the 3A charger on it for two days and it came back to life.
Seems to work fine now.
But now I keep a float charger on it when it is in storage.
BTW, when you put the battery charger on it, be sure and put the charger's negative cable to a good ground, BUT not on the battery's negative post.
If you put the charger's negative clamp on the negative battery post, the BMS (Battery Management System) won't be able to keep track of the amps in and amps out of the battery.
Of course your dealer will check the battery as well but he or she does not have to know that you`ve already had an outside source check it. By doing it this way and keeping that first check info to yourself, you`ll know if your dealer is honest or at the very least trust worthy.
Have a great day.
Of course your dealer will check the battery as well but he or she does not have to know that you`ve already had an outside source check it. By doing it this way and keeping that first check info to yourself, you`ll know if your dealer is honest or at the very least trust worthy.
Have a great day.
Battery
• Check and recharge as necessary. Keep
connections clean.
• If storing your vehicle for more than 30
days without recharging the battery,
we recommend that you disconnect
the battery cables to maintain battery
charge for quick starting.
So this was copied and pasted from the Op's owner's manual. Scamming the dealer out of a battery because the OP failed to properly prepare the truck for storage is hardly the best advice. I also find it ironic that you are giving tips on how to see if the dealer is trustworthy when in fact he would be dishonest himself.
I've seen you on this site. I have respect for you and what you bring to this forum. I just think that your quoted post above is in bad judgement.
Perhaps you did not realize that there is a recommended storage procedure for the battery. If so please accept my apologies for any accusations inferred or otherwise.
• Check and recharge as necessary. Keep
connections clean.
• If storing your vehicle for more than 30
days without recharging the battery,
we recommend that you disconnect
the battery cables to maintain battery
charge for quick starting.
So this was copied and pasted from the Op's owner's manual. Scamming the dealer out of a battery because the OP failed to properly prepare the truck for storage is hardly the best advice. I also find it ironic that you are giving tips on how to see if the dealer is trustworthy when in fact he would be dishonest himself.
I've seen you on this site. I have respect for you and what you bring to this forum. I just think that your quoted post above is in bad judgement.
Perhaps you did not realize that there is a recommended storage procedure for the battery. If so please accept my apologies for any accusations inferred or otherwise.
No, I don`t accept your apology because it came after your insulting comment so just save it for someone else.
It`s not uncommon for these batteries or any battery to go bad before the expiration date and some F150 owners have reported such and they drive their truck everyday.
I`ve had my 2016 F150 sitting for over a month several times and at least 2-3 weeks every month or two without driving it and i`ve never had a problem with it starting and I sure didn`t follow the procedure you so kindly posted from the owners manual so that theory goes straight out the window.
The truck started on the first turn of the key, and has not given me a moment's problem since. Am I lucky? Probably, but I thought I'd post this experience just to let our readers know that sometimes, this Deep Sleep issue can end well. I share GABAR's thought in the last line of his post: mine sat for 3 weeks and started right up. I hope my experience helps others. Cheers all.
However, once a wet cell lead-acid battery is discharged more than 50%, they have received some level of damage, and they will never be like new again. Do it a few times, and they become toast. Worse than toast actually, as butter will do nothing to help them out.
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No, I don`t accept your apology because it came after your insulting comment so just save it for someone else.
It`s not uncommon for these batteries or any battery to go bad before the expiration date and some F150 owners have reported such and they drive their truck everyday.
I`ve had my 2016 F150 sitting for over a month several times and at least 2-3 weeks every month or two without driving it and i`ve never had a problem with it starting and I sure didn`t follow the procedure you so kindly posted from the owners manual so that theory goes straight out the window.
I gave you an out. Yet you still stood by that statement. Then you took it a step further with words like "absurd" and "theory". Okay.
So lets break this down.
If I am correct a 2017 2.7 came equipped with a lead acid battery. AFAIK only the start\stop equipped trucks were upgraded to the AGM which were a little more tolerant to discharging mishaps. The OP mentioned a message, which to me implied the truck was also equipped with Sync Connect. That in itself leads me to believe that the truck was loaded normally for the first two weeks of that storage time. Storing the battery for two months while connected to ANY type of load is almost definitly going to lead to over discharge.
And you're saying that because it is not "uncommon" for batteries to up and die inside of their expiration date that the OP is reasonable to assume that the battery is to blame? The mistake of leaving a lead acid battery designed for vehicle starting connected to a load for two months without any type of charging has nothing to do with the failure?
Either you are truly ignorant about batteries or you felt compelled to defend your statement that I questioned with "what ifs". Your personal experiences with your battery are not the same circumstances as the OP. Moreover, if what you are saying about your 2016 is true, and you have Sync Connect, you should consider yourself lucky.
Either way, your response proved my original point further. As did the subsequent responses that also affirm that damage was likely done to the battery by the way it was stored.
The failure of that battery is not the fault of Ford Motor Company. It was clearly maintained improperly. There was a manual provided to the OP that outlined proper storage that would have prevented his problems. None of these statements are absurd or theories.
However, going to the dealer to claim warranty under the theory that the battery is/was defective is absurd.
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So lets break this down.
If I am correct a 2017 2.7 came equipped with a lead acid battery. AFAIK only the start\stop equipped trucks were upgraded to the AGM which were a little more tolerant to discharging mishaps. The OP mentioned a message, which to me implied the truck was also equipped with Sync Connect. That in itself leads me to believe that the truck was loaded normally for the first two weeks of that storage time. Storing the battery for two months while connected to ANY type of load is almost definitly going to lead to over discharge.
And you're saying that because it is not "uncommon" for batteries to up and die inside of their expiration date that the OP is reasonable to assume that the battery is to blame? The mistake of leaving a lead acid battery designed for vehicle starting connected to a load for two months without any type of charging has nothing to do with the failure?
Either you are truly ignorant about batteries or you felt compelled to defend your statement that I questioned with "what ifs". Your personal experiences with your battery are not the same circumstances as the OP. Moreover, if what you are saying about your 2016 is true, and you have Sync Connect, you should consider yourself lucky.
Either way, your response proved my original point further. As did the subsequent responses that also affirm that damage was likely done to the battery by the way it was stored.
The failure of that battery is not the fault of Ford Motor Company. It was clearly maintained improperly. There was a manual provided to the OP that outlined proper storage that would have prevented his problems. None of these statements are absurd or theories.
However, going to the dealer to claim warranty under the theory that the battery is/was defective is absurd.
I said what I had to say in your first reply to me and yes, i`m sticking by it. Just like a hit dog, you yelped when I replied back to your first comment and now you`re trying to save face with your silly attempt to make yourself feel good by bringing up AGM batteries and how they can be charged and discharged but the fact remains, your first comment was absurd.
Get a life little boy.
I said what I had to say in your first reply to me and yes, i`m sticking by it. Just like a hit dog, you yelped when I replied back to your first comment and now you`re trying to save face with your silly attempt to make yourself feel good by bringing up AGM batteries and how they can be charged and discharged but the fact remains, your first comment was absurd.
Get a life little boy.
Despite all of this , I have respect for you and what you bring to this forum. My attack was never meant to be personal to you. Only your content on this post.
You win. I will reply no more on this subject.
Happy Trails.
Evidently it’s supposed to basically just shut down the electronics and, to wake it up, you just manually start it.
It may have just been coincidental that the battery died. It also may be that there are still bugs in the sleep mode system that is causing it to truly render the vehicle inoperable.
Just too many fancy electronics on these nowadays......









