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Just a Ford 302 Speed Density vrs. MAF Question

Does anyone know if the Ford 302 5.0 that was used in the LTD Crown Victoria was Speed Density or MAF?

Also the same question for the 302 5.0 that was used in the 1995 Explorer? (Edited)

I have heard some say it was SD and some say it was the MAF?

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Originally Posted by rpaxton939
Does any know if the Ford 302 5.0 that was used in the LTD Crown Victoria was Speed Density or MAF?

Also the same question for the 302 5.0 that was used in the 1995 Expedition?

I have heard some say it was SD and some say it was the MAF?

All input is welcome.
The Explorers may have been MAF, unsure that an Expedition was built in the Windsor era. Most generally, all 5.0s were MAF by '95, with cars being the first to get MAF.

And I didn't know that the LTD, Crown Vic's came in the 302 line. I only knew them as having 351's, and puny cams.

Hopefully others will chime in and perhaps correct me.
 
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Does any know if the Ford 302 5.0 that was used in the LTD Crown Victoria was Speed Density or MAF?
Neither.. there is nothing MAF or SD specific about any of these engines but I believe the 5.0 Crown Vics were SD. Either way the 5.0 used in those cars was the least powerful version available at the time(150hp), crippled with a tiny cam, the worst SBF heads ever produced, and a restrictive whisper quiet exhaust.

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Also the same question for the 302 5.0 that was used in the 1995 Expedition?
The Expedition didn't exist until '97 and was never equipped with a Windsor pushrod motor. Did you mean Explorer?
 
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The 5.0 in the Vics, Marquis and Town cars never made it to Mass Air.
 
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Originally Posted by rpaxton939
Does any know if the Ford 302 5.0 that was used in the LTD Crown Victoria was Speed Density or MAF?

Also the same question for the 302 5.0 that was used in the 1995 Expedition?

I have heard some say it was SD and some say it was the MAF?

All input is welcome.
I see the error of my ways. I did not mean Expedition but I did mean "Explorer". I will edit my original post. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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A '97 Explorer has the best equipped 5.0 ever produced with GT40 heads and intake and a decent roller cam. That vehicle was also equipped with OBD2 MAF EFI and distributorless ignition.
 
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I have an option to buy a 95 Explorer 5.0 with unknown mileage at this time for $500.00 or a 97 Explorer 5.0 with 180,000 miles for $650.00. Either one will need to be rebuilt, so probably the 97 would be better even though probably more miles than the 95.
 
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95 didn't have the 5.0 if I recall. If it did, then it's got the better GT40 heads, the 97 will likely have the GT40P heads. The switch was made in mid 97. Check the casting letter in the front corner of the passenger side head (and rear corner of the driver side head) The non P heads will have "GT" cast there. The "P" heads have a "P" there. P heads have smaller exhaust valves and that funky spark plug angle that complicates header choices.
 
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What years besides 1997 did the Explorer offer the 5.0/302 with the GT40 heads? Would all these engines also be MAF?
 
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Originally Posted by rpaxton939
What years besides 1997 did the Explorer offer the 5.0/302 with the GT40 heads? Would all these engines also be MAF?
They started in 96, ended in 2001. Sometime in 97 the switch was made to the GT40P head
 
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'96-97.5 Explorer/Mountaineer had 3-bar GT40 heads, all of the Gen1 Lightning 5.8s, and the uber rare '93-95 5.8 Cobra mustang.
 
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Originally Posted by Conanski
'96-97.5 Explorer/Mountaineer had 3-bar GT40 heads, all of the Gen1 Lightning 5.8s, and the uber rare '93-95 5.8 Cobra mustang.
But be advised Cobra heads were milled a couple extra passes to get the chambers to 60 cc's so you shouldn't mill them more without first checking the chamber volumes first.
 
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Good point, but of course I would think someone building an engine would measure things first regardless what head they are starting with. In this case the casting number is a bit of a giveaway.. F3ZE or F4ZE but then again.. if buying used heads you never know what the previous owners did to them.
 
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But be advised Cobra heads were milled a couple extra passes to get the chambers to 60 cc's so you shouldn't mill them more without first checking the chamber volumes first.

While that's what the Ford said they did in reality you can find GT40 heads that came off of a Cobra Mustang with 65 cc combustion chambers. I have such a set.
 
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While that's what the Ford said they did in reality you can find GT40 heads that came off of a Cobra Mustang with 65 cc combustion chambers. I have such a set.
Ok, good for you. You just proved what I've also seen over the years about Ford's manufacturing practices. You never know what you'll find until you take a Ford engine apart.
 


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