Interior questions
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Interior questions
Hi guys. I have a '56 that I will be putting an interior in and have a question for those of you that have used the ABS headliner and/or kit.
I have enough dynamat to do the cab but am wondering do I want the headliner (and other pieces if I get the whole kit) with or without insulation? Does dynamat work for heat/cold too?
Next, where does everyone mount speakers? I've seen the underseat models and when I bought my first truck in high school I had my pioneer tsx-9s under the seat and liked it fine. Not sure how much room I will have if I go with the TMI buckets or the ones Summit sells.
I have enough dynamat to do the cab but am wondering do I want the headliner (and other pieces if I get the whole kit) with or without insulation? Does dynamat work for heat/cold too?
Next, where does everyone mount speakers? I've seen the underseat models and when I bought my first truck in high school I had my pioneer tsx-9s under the seat and liked it fine. Not sure how much room I will have if I go with the TMI buckets or the ones Summit sells.
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Dynamat is great for dampening vibrations in a panel, think about it like placing a finger on the edge of a vibrating cymbal. Some heat/sound insulating qualities as well but not its strongpoint. I apply Dynamat, Noico, or other brand of butyl mat on my roof underside (on top of two coats of LizardSkin) and then follow it with a layer of EZ Cool insulation, take a look at the website EZ Cool Automotive Insulation heat barrier and noise reduction for cars, trucks, classic cars, street rods and much more. The EZ Cool is ultra lightweight and perfect for the underside of the roof. Holds out radiated heat and dampens reflected noise within the cab. As for speakers, it's hard to beat a good kick panel install...good sound dispersion and simple wire runs. I built some woofer enclosures that mount in the rear corners of the cab but that is a little more than most truck owners care to go. Good luck, post some pics when you can.
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Charlie, if you recommend it, I will buy it! The price looks good, a 4 x 10 piece for $45. So you put a couple of strips of butyl sound deadener on the roof first then the EZ Cool. And you use spray adhesive?
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The EZ Cool consists of a sheet of micro-bubble wrap about 5/16 ths thick. Both sides of the bubble sheet have aluminum foil bonded to it. If you get a chance read the report on the testing that was conducted on the EZ Cool, very impressive. The sheeting is easily applied with 3M 77 or 90 spray adhesive...full coverage is not necessary since the material is so light. You can apply as much butyl mat as you like, as a rule of thumb I use as much as is needed to eliminate the ringing when the panel is tapped. I like a dull thunk sound when tapped. I am using Noico mat right now, it looks just like Dynamat and it is thicker and cheaper.
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Do you make your own lizard skin or do you buy it? If you buy it which one?
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I make my own. Good quality exterior grade latex paint with as much ceramic microspheres as possible mixed in. Should be the consistency of cake batter. Spray with a Schutz gun or use the kit sold by Lizard Skin...it has a quart syphon feed gun and a syphon feed hose setup if you want to spray it from a bucket.
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Charlie, can you show a picture of your home-made lizard skin after applied? Does the EZ cool affect carpet or headliner fitment from its thickness?
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The EZ Cool consists of a sheet of micro-bubble wrap about 5/16 ths thick. Both sides of the bubble sheet have aluminum foil bonded to it. If you get a chance read the report on the testing that was conducted on the EZ Cool, very impressive. The sheeting is easily applied with 3M 77 or 90 spray adhesive...full coverage is not necessary since the material is so light. You can apply as much butyl mat as you like, as a rule of thumb I use as much as is needed to eliminate the ringing when the panel is tapped. I like a dull thunk sound when tapped. I am using Noico mat right now, it looks just like Dynamat and it is thicker and cheaper.
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Here is a link to all the questions about Charlie's magic lizard skin.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...in-update.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...in-update.html
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Personally I would go with the 80 but 50 is better than none at all.
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Keith,
Several have used the ABS panels. 56fordpanel used them on his wife’s 56. I think he was pretty statisfied with the ones MidFifty sells.
Dynamt is pricey and there are other cheaper options as discussed above. It’s primarily used of noise control thus the other products discussed above as well. Keep in mind these trucks were built for work not comfort or quietness so pretty much anything you do will help.
You might ask 56fordpanel or Charlieled where they recommend speaker placement.
Several have used the ABS panels. 56fordpanel used them on his wife’s 56. I think he was pretty statisfied with the ones MidFifty sells.
Dynamt is pricey and there are other cheaper options as discussed above. It’s primarily used of noise control thus the other products discussed above as well. Keep in mind these trucks were built for work not comfort or quietness so pretty much anything you do will help.
You might ask 56fordpanel or Charlieled where they recommend speaker placement.
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Ok, well, the question was about the panels. I have Dynamat. I was wondering if, with dynamat, I would also want the panels to come with insulation as they are sold either way. Mid-fifty also has kick panels make to use with (guessing) 6 1/2" round speakers.