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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 08:56 AM
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Bedside toolbox mounting?

Can anyone tell me how the bedside toolbox was supposed to be mounted or better yet the factory installation instructions. My toolbox was not factory installed based on the crude job cutting the hole in the side of the bed. It had the screws into the bed side and two bolts through the floor. I seem to remember seeing a bracket in a photo somewhere which mine doesn't have. Just wondering if I'm missing something. Thanks.
 
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These two pre-packs of tool compartment related hardware both came with three instruction sheets each - one set is much more yellowed from not being in a cardboard box. The other set is nearly perfect.



Sheet 1 of 3 of the install instructions is for the box including where F100 (shortbed) differs from F250 (longbed). Now, before you say there were F100 longbeds, also....I know. This is just the terminology used on these instructions - it is considering F100 to be the smaller box and F250 to be the bigger box. We also know these boxes were designed to fit 1964-1966. Notice the instructions say 1965 on them and are a Copyright of 1964 just below the Ford logo (this close-up not shown). Given that - here's what I have.

They called the set of three "Instruction Sheet 1493" or I.S. 1493. All of their instruction sheets were uniquely numbered for reference.



Sheet 2 of 3 is the F250 template.





And sheet 3 of 3 is the F100 template.





Both sizes used the bracket on the back side to support the weight of the box and whatever was inside. In the first picture above the bracket is the closest one in the picture, along with the 3 larger screws and J-nuts (2 below and 1 above the bracket in the picture).

C4TZ-9946160-A - Tool Storage Compartment Bracket - 1 each
375615-S7 - Screw - 5/16" - 24 x ?" - 3 each
359952-S2 - J-nut - 5/16" - 24 - 3 each

I haven't measured the length of the screw yet. Two screws secure the bracket to the bed underside and the other goes from inside the tool box through the bracket and J-nut to support the back side.

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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 11:56 AM
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On the instruction sheet, what is in the lower left corner? It looks like it is instructions for the longer carriage bolts shown in you picture of the parts, the ones with the large square washers. My box, F100 LWB, had these two bolts through the bed floor and right through the rear of the box. I shortened my box to make it fit a short bed, cut out 14". Now I'm down to just one bolt. I could easily add a second bolt but just curious how it was supposed to be.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 12:17 PM
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 53deere
On the instruction sheet, what is in the lower left corner? It looks like it is instructions for the longer carriage bolts shown in you picture of the parts, the ones with the large square washers. My box, F100 LWB, had these two bolts through the bed floor and right through the rear of the box. I shortened my box to make it fit a short bed, cut out 14". Now I'm down to just one bolt. I could easily add a second bolt but just curious how it was supposed to be.
VIEW IN CIRCLE Y
FOR F-250 ONLY
PARTS CALLED OUT
IN CIRCLE Z

So, yes, only one square washer (reinforcement), carriage bolt, lock washer and nut. They do show a bit of sealer applied to the top of the square washer before putting it on so it seals around the hole(s). Also some sealer between the bracket mentioned in my first post and box where the screw goes through from the inside - just to give you those details, too.

I'll see if I can scan the instructions in two passes and stitch it together so I can post a copy of it that looks decent.

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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 05:34 PM
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What is part number 27814? Is it a reinforcement for the bottom edge of the bed side?
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 05:41 PM
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Thanks for the info.
On the plus side, I didn't have a key for the lock, but today I went through some old keys I had, found two keys, marked Hudson on one side and HL212 on the other. The keys fit the lock but didn't turn. Pulled out the tumbler, rearranged the pins to match the key, now I have two working keys.
 
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Originally Posted by 53deere
What is part number 27814? Is it a reinforcement for the bottom edge of the bed side?
Correct.

But, you didn't ask what 28067 is. Another true sign of an original compartment.

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Here's a picture I already had of the reinforcement piece for the bottom of the opening on my longbed. Just an extra strip of metal a little thicker than the bed metal gauge with the same radius as the bed in that bottom one inch.



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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 08:10 PM
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TA455HO
Correct.

But, you didn't ask what 28067 is. Another true sign of an original compartment.

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I missed that one. The normal brace was cut off on mine to make room for the box, the ends still remain. I'll remove what's left and maybe make one like in the picture. But really, once the box is bolted in the area is probably stronger than a bed without a box. These boxes are built fairly heavy. I had a 79 with a box, many moons ago, but I sorta recall the inner box being plastic? Of course the door frame was nicely built right into the bed side.

Off on a tangent, anyone remember the TV show Fall Guy? He had a Chevy pickup where the front section of the bed opened up like a door to a storage area. I'm sure it was a one off custom build.
 
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28067 isn't a brace and isn't made out of metal. It's made out of rubber and looks like this.



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Old Jan 17, 2018 | 08:40 AM
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I've had an original box apart and didn't see 28067 Chad. Is it a stone shield, to be attached across the front of the tool box?
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It's not attached to the toolbox - it's called the

"Quarter Panel To Wheelhouse Seal"

C4TZ-9928067-A

Here's a picture of an original one still installed. Only used if the tool storage compartment was originally installed. If you look close you might be able to see the 3 lines molded into the rubber, very much like the radiator overflow tube and certain other rubber parts.





If you refer back to the drawing from the MPC you can probably make out one of the clips

379177-S -the Text portion refers to a 382570-S. - It used 4 of these clips to hold the rubber in place.

If you look at my picture above you can probably likewise make out the clips.

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Old Jan 17, 2018 | 10:16 AM
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