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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 08:00 AM
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I used a 1" phenolic spacer under a Holley 600. OEM air cleaner clears.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 02:54 PM
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HEI distributors eat caps. You'll find yourself pulling the cap and sanding down the contacts every few months. And after about the 4'th sanding, they are gone. Another issue is the spring under the center contact goes bad before the actual contact piece. But you buy a set, not just a spring. I converted a 302 and bought the 10 pack of distributor caps.

At least that's my experience...
 
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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gittinwidit
HEI distributors eat caps. You'll find yourself pulling the cap and sanding down the contacts every few months. And after about the 4'th sanding, they are gone. Another issue is the spring under the center contact goes bad before the actual contact piece. But you buy a set, not just a spring. I converted a 302 and bought the 10 pack of distributor caps.

At least that's my experience...
ALWAYS buy caps with copper. Ford, Chevy, Chrysler, IH, Hudson, Nash, Packard, whatever. You see the inside of a distributor cap and it's laced with aluminum? You put it back on the shelf. Why you would have to buy caps by the gross is beyond me.

To all you guys dissing GM HEI ignition. In the 70s, when it first came on the market, the fact that you could change the spark plugs and cap every 50,000 miles and keep on trucking was a big deal. I was there. It still ain't a bad deal.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gittinwidit
HEI distributors eat caps. You'll find yourself pulling the cap and sanding down the contacts every few months. And after about the 4'th sanding, they are gone. Another issue is the spring under the center contact goes bad before the actual contact piece. But you buy a set, not just a spring. I converted a 302 and bought the 10 pack of distributor caps.

At least that's my experience...
I'm on the same cap one year later no sanding of anything. And I daily drive the truck. What brand caps do you get?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2018 | 06:44 PM
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Been grinding and welding on thermostat,for 460 swap,what hold down clamp did you use ?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2018 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lafermedavid
Been grinding and welding on thermostat,for 460 swap,what hold down clamp did you use ?
351M Used the original clamp and screw. 460?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2018 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lafermedavid
Been grinding and welding on thermostat,for 460 swap,what hold down clamp did you use ?
I used the oem hold down, without issues on my 460.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 08:13 AM
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hold down clamp for hei

it handled the width of the hei?or did you have to open it up?thanks
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 08:29 AM
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I also used the original hold down on my 460 without any modifications. The extras I had to do was the gooseneck, upper radiator hose and air filter.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 09:03 AM
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it handled the width of the hei?or did you have to open it up?thanks
I didn’t have to make any modifications to the hold down. I didn’t make any modifications to the water neck. I didn’t make any modifications to the upper hose.I do have an aftermarket intake and air cleaner so I don’t know about clearance issues with that.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 10:07 PM
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Hey, thanks all for your experience and it sounds like no one has an opinion on whether the 50K unit is adequate for the old FE. Seems like I may (or may not) run into issues fitting a larger cap in the same space as the one in there now. I think I'll hold off replacing the dizzy for now, as many of you point out there is no real advantage. My original motivation was easier cold starts and potentially improve my mileage.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 10:40 PM
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I think I'll hold off replacing the dizzy for now, as many of you point out there is no real advantage. My original motivation was easier cold starts and potentially improve my mileage.
"Easier cold starts?" What is your starting procedure and how is your truck starting now?

If you have a working choke and your truck is hard to start when cold, then something isn't right.

I am running a stock DuraSpark II ignition, and my truck started right up last week at temperatures in the single digits with only a single pump of the gas. I drove away less than a minute later without any sort of stalling or hesitations whatsoever. In fact, other than giving it that shot of fuel in the morning to set the choke and kicking the fast idle cam down to the second notch a few seconds later, I can't tell a difference between my carbureted F150 and my wife's fuel-injected Mustang.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LARIAT 85
"Easier cold starts?" What is your starting procedure and how is your truck starting now?

If you have a working choke and your truck is hard to start when cold, then something isn't right.

I am running a stock DuraSpark II ignition, and my truck started right up last week at temperatures in the single digits with only a single pump of the gas. I drove away less than a minute later without any sort of stalling or hesitations whatsoever. In fact, other than giving it that shot of fuel in the morning to set the choke and kicking the fast idle cam down to the second notch a few seconds later, I can't tell a difference between my carbureted F150 and my wife's fuel-injected Mustang.
I had an otherwise bone stock 72 300-6 I converted to Duraspark II and it would always start at minus 30 without being plugged in, even down to minus 36 once. I lived in a cabin in Alaska and didn't have the luxury of electricity.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2018 | 09:45 AM
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I had an otherwise bone stock 72 300-6 I converted to Duraspark II and it would always start at minus 30 without being plugged in, even down to minus 36 once. I lived in a cabin in Alaska and didn't have the luxury of electricity.

That's incredible!

So many people seem to accept that owning a carbureted vehicle = hard cold starts. But that simply is not true. At least, it shouldn't be. As long as the choke is set up correctly and functioning, and the thermostatic air cleaner is in place and functioning, there shouldn't me *any* cold start problems or *any* problems driving in cold weather.

When they are set right, and all of the components are in place and functioning, there is very little difference between a vehicle with a carburetor compared to a vehicle with electronic fuel injection.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2018 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LARIAT 85
That's incredible!

So many people seem to accept that owning a carbureted vehicle = hard cold starts. But that simply is not true. At least, it shouldn't be. As long as the choke is set up correctly and functioning, and the thermostatic air cleaner is in place and functioning, there shouldn't me *any* cold start problems or *any* problems driving in cold weather.

When they are set right, and all of the components are in place and functioning, there is very little difference between a vehicle with a carburetor compared to a vehicle with electronic fuel injection.
In all my years in Alaska I saw very few efis that would start much colder than minus 30.
I had an old 83 Bronco with a 300-6. We had kind of quite using it but just kept it because it was so rusty it wasn't worth much and still ran good. It sat buried almost hood deep in a snow bank for a couple months. We had a spell where the high for the day didn't get above minus 52 for 3 days. I had dug out to the door and don't ask me why I even tried to start it but got in, remember is 50 below, it barely turned over but made about 2 revolutions and started up, and sat there and kept running. The power steering pump howled in protest though,lol.
So yeah, don't try to convince me efi start better that a well tuned carb engine.
 
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