Just had the leaking oil pan fixed, radiator leaks, def level senors act up, and a random p0170 lean code that randomly pops up are the diesel specific problems I had. The body mounts are shot already and wheel speed sensor is out. I've had $200 beater cars that with less issues. But the truck will pull just about anything you can hook to it.

Premium isn't required for the 6.2. When gas is 50 cents cheaper than diesel my fuel bill was pretty close to the same.

 

Thanks, yaa I know what you are saying. I have a 2003 Acura RL with 150 thousand on it and everything works as it did off the show room floor.


I am like I wish the domestic trucks were like that..

 

Neat thing, where I live - diesel is cheaper than regular... and a WHOLE lot cheaper than premium.

Don't like gas trucks - don't mind gas cars though. Certainly glad I had it for m move from South Florida to Alaska. I did one run in a gas Ford V10 and didn't like it nearly as much as I did in my diesel. The mileage difference was insane, like 12-14 mpg vs. 6-8 mpg. The diesel was pulling a cargo trailer and the V10 was a Uhaul truck that wasn't pulling anything.

Need vs. want vs what's in the budget.

 

There is absolutely no need to run premium in these 6.2’s. I’m on my second 6.2, the first one I drove just shy of 200k miles and all we did was replaced spark plugs and a few coil packs in just over 10,000 hours. Mine is a work truck that has a few thousand pounds of tools in the box at all times and pulls skid loader trailers and whatever else I want to pull with it. My 17 has 4.30 gears and gets better mileage than my 11 that had 3.73 gears. And pulls way better. I have never put anything but 87 octane in either of my trucks and they run and pull just fine. No they do not get the mileage that. 6.7 does but they will pull anything that the 6.7 will. They will just accelerate a little slower and rev a little higher. They are way more reliable than any higher mileage 6.7 than I have been around. It seems like all of my friends that have 6.7’s and we have a few work trucks with 6.7’s and once they get over 100k miles they are constantly needing something, throwing codes and a few have had major problems like turbos and we even had one that dropped a valve while driving and pulling skid loader. Needless to say that engine was toast! That truck got a complete reman drop in motor. We have had quite a few 5.4 work trucks go over 300,000 miles and now we have a bunch of high mileage 6.2’s and they require extremely less maintenance and have less down time than the 6.7’s do.

 

The diesels definitely pull better and get better mileage for that but just seam to be not that reliable and waaay to expensive to fix. I thought the 6.7's might be as good as the old 7.3 PS but just more to repair and pulled better but I guess none of the diesels today are really that great.


There more reliable than a 6.0 I take it ?

 

I had two 6.0s and several 6.7s. I could never get more than 10k miles out of my 6.0s before I have to lemon law them. My 6.7s rarely and a couple never saw the dealer. My current one I bought in 2014 and it has only seen the dealer for a reflash.

Granted, I don't keep mine to 100k miles, much less past 100k miles.

Painted Horse seems to keep them until 150k miles or so and has documented on FTE his repairs. They haven't been crazy. Maybe he can chime in.

 

Thanks, I guess none are as good as the old first Gen PS 7.3. I thought maybe the 6.7 was. He wants a 6.7 but should buy the gas model from what I can see.

 

I think it just comes down to a matter of preference. I like to tinker and modify everything I get, they are all great canvas of which to paint upon, from a gear head side, power per dollar, diesel is way more fun

If the overall concern is longevity and cost down the road, this is a budget item they need to work through.

 

He wants a diesel and would get one but my sister is real sharp at managing everything for their retirement coming up.


The 6.0 was that bad in her opinion, he had it modded and said it would smoke the tires at 70 pulling a trailer but she does not care about that. That thing was always having issues.

 

I towed my 13,000lb 5th wheel with a gas engine for several years. Usually only a couple hundred miles at a time. I would never go back to gas again under any towing scenario where I had to tow over 10,000lbs. Gas engines will only generate the needed torque and HP in the upper range of the RPMs. 4,000 RPMs and 8% grade for 4 or 5 miles will convince you if you doubt my word.

 

 

 

Sorry you can't get 18 mpg out of your 6.7, as I said "your results may vary". My 6.7 is bone stock other than changing to BFG K02's which hurt my mileage a tiny bit. Last tank was 19.6 mpg, not towing, up in NH generally running 50-55 mph on Rt 3N and then 18.3 mpg running south at highway speeds to central MA.

 

 

I have to agree with windell the 6.7 doesn't get the kind of gas mileage that most people post about.

The best I've ever seen out of my 6.7 is 18.6mpg unloaded at 80mph with a significant tail wind running on I-80 between Evanston, Wy and Cheyenne, Wy. Without that tailwind it's 15.5mpg.

Fuelly confirms what I get with my truck.




The 6.2L is 2 to 3 mpg less.