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Old 01-11-2018, 04:03 PM
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6.7 VS gas for towing just a little bit but heavy.

My sister and her husband need a newer truck, she only wants to spend 25 to 35 grand. He bought a like new 6.0 back in 2007 and it was a 2006 F 250.


He only has 240 thousand miles on it but she wants it gone because how many problems they have had with it and they do not want to stick more cash in it and it's having issues again so they want something newer.


She wants to get him a gasser but he wants a diesel, he pulls 10 to 12 grand but rarely does he do this but he does drive a good bit like 20 to 30 thousand miles a year.


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Old 01-11-2018, 04:20 PM
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Check the Ford Towing Specs. I suspect the 6.2 will handle the load.

http://www.fleet.ford.com/partsandse...owner-manuals/
 
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Old 01-11-2018, 04:55 PM
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IMHO if you don't "need" a diesel than don't get one especially if operating costs are a concern. Gassers are much easier on the wallet as far as yearly operating costs, but, you have to be lucky and execute a strict maintenance regime to get 240k miles out of a gasser.
 
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Old 01-12-2018, 08:53 AM
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Considering long term ownership, I would argue that if your put a lot of unloaded highway miles go with the diesel. Increased fuel mileage will offset higher PREVENTATIVE maintenance costs. Increased initial costs can be mostly recouped down the road when the truck is sold.

There is always the gamble of unforeseen catastrophic failures, which will most likely be higher with the diesel, but those occurrences are a gamble and can happen with any vehicle.
 
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:02 AM
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Thanks..... Yaa if gas goes up to 4 or 5 $ or more a gallon gas would hurt the wallet.


It's just that the parts for these 6.7's are so high. He has constantly had problems with injectors on the 6.0. It has a delete kit and some other mods.


It pulls great!
 
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I have a f250 5.4l and tow 12000 lbs. often she pulls good on flat ground but on hills it revs pretty high and not to quick. Crap mileage all the time 10s no load, 8s, 9s with load. Just got a sct programmer just need some tunes and see if it gets better.
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From a financial standpoint my 2015 4WD 6.7 averages 18 mpg unloaded so for 60k miles I have gone through approx 3400 gallons of diesel fuel. If I had the gasser that got 10 mpg that would translate into 6000 gallons of gas. 3400 x $3/gal = $10,200 in diesel fuel bought. 6000 x $2.50/gal = $15,000 in fuel bought for the same distance (all in theory naturally - your results may vary). Double that to 120k miles and the savings is $9600 in fuel. Maintenance will be more expensive for the diesel but it should last longer and the vehicles value will be higher at the time you wish to sell it than the gasser would. My thought would be if you are going to keep the truck for just a few years, get the gasser, but if you are going to keep it long term the diesel will be more cost effective. Add to that the diesel tows extremely easy. I'm on the highway turning 2000 rpms, running at close to peak torque, and my truck feels nothing behind it. My only personal comparison was when I previously had F150's that got worse gas mileage and you felt anything you towed behind you.
 
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Check to see if your state has bio-fuel incentives for using B20, in CA I get $1 x 1500 gallons a year incentive so I use B20 80% of the time. I also have the larger rear end on my 250xlt and can get up to 24mpg at 65 unloaded on some of my 220 mile commutes.
Get the 6.7, try to find one that's just been broken in. (60-100K miles)
I may be selling my '12 6.7 with only 81K miles to purchase a brand new 2017 in the next few months.
 
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Having owned both engines in a f250 I honestly prefer the 6.2 aside from heavy towing. For what a f250 can legally be titled to do, the 6.2 will easily perform the same task. It won't be as fast, revs more and drinks gas. For the unloaded mixed driving I do, my mileage in the 6.7 isn't much better than my old gas truck. Towing is a different story, definitely better mileage with the diesel. The part I greatly dislike about my 6.7 is the amount of time it's been back to the dealership with trouble. I never had one engine issue with the gas truck. Right now I like the power the diesel offers so deal with it
 
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Want always seems to overrule the capable ability and practical reasoning of most debates when purchasing trucks. If it's in the budget why not will be the outcome.
 
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:44 AM
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Your budget comment pretty much was my decision to go diesel, plus everyone I knew had one and gave it praise. I'm glad I had the diesel for the process of moving PA to GA. The biggest thing I have noticed gas vs diesel is price. The initial sticker price is easy to see the difference but long term resale/trade is drastically different. I've seen diesels listed over book value and people still buy them.
 
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I just bought a 17, I really went back and forth about gas versus diesel. I picked diesel and would not go back. It is my first diesel so I've definitely been learning a lot lately. I don't have any regrets.
 
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Having owned both engines in a f250 I honestly prefer the 6.2 aside from heavy towing. For what a f250 can legally be titled to do, the 6.2 will easily perform the same task. It won't be as fast, revs more and drinks gas. For the unloaded mixed driving I do, my mileage in the 6.7 isn't much better than my old gas truck. Towing is a different story, definitely better mileage with the diesel. The part I greatly dislike about my 6.7 is the amount of time it's been back to the dealership with trouble. I never had one engine issue with the gas truck. Right now I like the power the diesel offers so deal with it

What kind of problems?


I know the old 7.3's were the cheapest and easiest to fix but did not pull as well and were louder.
 
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Another thing to remember is many vehicles prefer/required to run on premium gas, which brings them at approx the same price point per gal as diesel.
 
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:17 AM
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From a financial standpoint my 2015 4WD 6.7 averages 18 mpg unloaded so for 60k miles I have gone through approx 3400 gallons of diesel fuel. If I had the gasser that got 10 mpg that would translate into 6000 gallons of gas. 3400 x $3/gal = $10,200 in diesel fuel bought. 6000 x $2.50/gal = $15,000 in fuel bought for the same distance (all in theory naturally - your results may vary). Double that to 120k miles and the savings is $9600 in fuel. Maintenance will be more expensive for the diesel but it should last longer and the vehicles value will be higher at the time you wish to sell it than the gasser would. My thought would be if you are going to keep the truck for just a few years, get the gasser, but if you are going to keep it long term the diesel will be more cost effective. Add to that the diesel tows extremely easy. I'm on the highway turning 2000 rpms, running at close to peak torque, and my truck feels nothing behind it. My only personal comparison was when I previously had F150's that got worse gas mileage and you felt anything you towed behind you.
I would argue the reverse logic. If you are going to trade before the warranty runs out a 6.7 would make more sense to me. If you are going to run it into the ground a gas truck will lickley be much cheaper to keep on the road. Most of our 6.2s at work are going 200k miles and 10,000 hours with just plug changes. I am averaging 12 mpg on short local trips on my 4x4 crew cab 6.2 with 4:30 gears, which is as bad of a combo as you can get for mpgs.
 

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