Daily driving a super duty
#31
I drive 30-35,000 miles a year. My past few daily drivers have been:
Infiniti M45
Audi S4
Audi S6
I now drive a 2017 F250 CCSB with PSD and I absolutely love it. The highway ride and feeling of safety is amazing. Cruising range is fantastic. More to your driving style around town driving is actually easier than I thought. I take this truck to downtown locations all the time and I can always find good parking. The elevated ride and better vision are irreplaceable. The growl of the engine is addictive. These trucks are great daily drivers.
Infiniti M45
Audi S4
Audi S6
I now drive a 2017 F250 CCSB with PSD and I absolutely love it. The highway ride and feeling of safety is amazing. Cruising range is fantastic. More to your driving style around town driving is actually easier than I thought. I take this truck to downtown locations all the time and I can always find good parking. The elevated ride and better vision are irreplaceable. The growl of the engine is addictive. These trucks are great daily drivers.
#32
One thing that these trucks have going for them is safety. It's like driving an M1 Abrams. I've been paying attention to the members on this site and others that have been in crashes. 99% of the time they just walk away. The F150 is no slouch in an accident, but the Super Duty has more mass.
#33
One thing that these trucks have going for them is safety. It's like driving an M1 Abrams. I've been paying attention to the members on this site and others that have been in crashes. 99% of the time they just walk away. The F150 is no slouch in an accident, but the Super Duty has more mass.
I was rear ended at about the same speed in a Infiniti M45 and the frame was bent along with $15,000 or damage and my back has never been right since.
The Super Duty Truck’s are a step above the F150 in safety.
#35
One thing that these trucks have going for them is safety. It's like driving an M1 Abrams. I've been paying attention to the members on this site and others that have been in crashes. 99% of the time they just walk away. The F150 is no slouch in an accident, but the Super Duty has more mass.
#36
2017 CCLB 6.2 is my daily driver. My driving habits are mostly like this:
Daily:
15 miles round-trip to and from work at an office job.
Occasionally:
Pulling a 6,400 pound (empty weight), about 7,500 (loaded weight) travel trailer about 8-10 times a year for some family camping. Distance ranges from 30 miles to 400 miles one-way.
The long bed can take some getting used to, but the first time you go camping and put 4 kayaks (one 11 footer, one 8 footer and two 6 footers), 3 bikes, a fire pit, firewood, and whatever other miscellaneous gear you can stuff into it, it all makes it worthwhile.
My big concern was the total weight rating and with 4 kids and camping gear, I wanted to make sure there was enough capacity to safely tow and bring everyone with me in the truck instead of taking 2 cars...which is what we had to do with our 2012 Expedition that I moved up from.
Daily:
15 miles round-trip to and from work at an office job.
Occasionally:
Pulling a 6,400 pound (empty weight), about 7,500 (loaded weight) travel trailer about 8-10 times a year for some family camping. Distance ranges from 30 miles to 400 miles one-way.
The long bed can take some getting used to, but the first time you go camping and put 4 kayaks (one 11 footer, one 8 footer and two 6 footers), 3 bikes, a fire pit, firewood, and whatever other miscellaneous gear you can stuff into it, it all makes it worthwhile.
My big concern was the total weight rating and with 4 kids and camping gear, I wanted to make sure there was enough capacity to safely tow and bring everyone with me in the truck instead of taking 2 cars...which is what we had to do with our 2012 Expedition that I moved up from.
#37
We have a 2016 F-150 in the family, plus I have a 2018 Raptor which is a modified F-150. I've had a 2012, 2015, and two 2016 Super Duty trucks, with both 2016 trucks being diesel. I've also owned a 2017 dually for a year, and now that's gone but I'm daily driving a 2017 F-250 diesel.
As a daily driver, it is 100% fine. I drive mine daily. But, some people who are used to driving half-tons hate driving a Super Duty.
The 150 feels light and nimble. It feels fast, and it is. The brakes as much more responsive. The 150 rides much nicer than any Super Duty and also outhandles one. It also gets better fuel economy than any Super Duty.
Really, the F-150 is an amazing machine. If I could have all those attributes in my Super Duty while still sitting up at the higher height and retaining the towing and hauling capability, I would.
The steering is vastly lighter and effortless in a 150. The 2017+ Super Duty has significantly heavy steering, especially when compared to the previous generation Super Duty.
As a daily driver with only modest towing needs, and F-150 makes much better sense. But that said, some people like to sit up high and enjoy the commanding view. I'm one of those people.
I think my diesel is "quick" but it gets obliterated by either of the F-150 EcoBoost engines and especially by the Raptor. A gas Super Duty would be that much slower.
As far as safety, both an F-150 and Super Duty are safe. They share a cab. The F-150 has "tire stoppers" which are bars preventing the front wheels and tires from crushing into the cab in the event of an offset collision. The Super Duty does not have these. The Super Duty has more mass for sure which may be helpful in imparting more crash force to the other vehicle or object rather than being on the receiving end, but in a rollover event the additional mass will try to crush the cab harder than it would in a 150. The higher ride height of the Super Duty also makes it more likely to roll. Frankly, I'm going to be more concerned with my and my passenger's safety in the event of a crash and not buy a vehicle that may be less safe in order to help "the other car" by having less mass. Of course I'm concerned about other's safety in a crash, but that is hardly my priority.
As a daily driver, it is 100% fine. I drive mine daily. But, some people who are used to driving half-tons hate driving a Super Duty.
The 150 feels light and nimble. It feels fast, and it is. The brakes as much more responsive. The 150 rides much nicer than any Super Duty and also outhandles one. It also gets better fuel economy than any Super Duty.
Really, the F-150 is an amazing machine. If I could have all those attributes in my Super Duty while still sitting up at the higher height and retaining the towing and hauling capability, I would.
The steering is vastly lighter and effortless in a 150. The 2017+ Super Duty has significantly heavy steering, especially when compared to the previous generation Super Duty.
As a daily driver with only modest towing needs, and F-150 makes much better sense. But that said, some people like to sit up high and enjoy the commanding view. I'm one of those people.
I think my diesel is "quick" but it gets obliterated by either of the F-150 EcoBoost engines and especially by the Raptor. A gas Super Duty would be that much slower.
As far as safety, both an F-150 and Super Duty are safe. They share a cab. The F-150 has "tire stoppers" which are bars preventing the front wheels and tires from crushing into the cab in the event of an offset collision. The Super Duty does not have these. The Super Duty has more mass for sure which may be helpful in imparting more crash force to the other vehicle or object rather than being on the receiving end, but in a rollover event the additional mass will try to crush the cab harder than it would in a 150. The higher ride height of the Super Duty also makes it more likely to roll. Frankly, I'm going to be more concerned with my and my passenger's safety in the event of a crash and not buy a vehicle that may be less safe in order to help "the other car" by having less mass. Of course I'm concerned about other's safety in a crash, but that is hardly my priority.
#38
Crash tests show how vehicle size, weight affect safety
#39
"Size and weight affect injury likelihood in all kinds of crashes. In a collision involving two vehicles that differ in size and weight, the people in the smaller, lighter vehicle will be at a disadvantage. The bigger, heavier vehicle will push the smaller, lighter one backward during the impact. This means there will be less force on the occupants of the heavier vehicle and more on the people in the lighter vehicle. Greater force means greater risk, so the likelihood of injury goes up in the smaller, lighter vehicle."
Crash tests show how vehicle size, weight affect safety
Crash tests show how vehicle size, weight affect safety
On my last trip to Washington D.C. I saw a Toyota Yaris that had been rear ended by a F250. The driver seat back was mashed into the steering wheel with the steering column being bent upward by the Yaris driver's body. (deceased) The back seat wasn't visible anymore. The F250 driver walked away.
If the Yaris had rear ended the F250,,, well we all know how that would have went. Likely, the F250 driver would still have walked away.
Much like gravity,,, Momentum hurts when you're on the receiving end.
Mass x velocity = Momentum
BTW, I have nothing against the Yaris. For a cookie cutter econo-box they do exactly what they're supposed to. Get one from point A to point B, cheap and reliably. However, cheap isn't always the safest.
I've experience spinal surgery a couple of times, so has my wife. We don't like the outcome. Thus, there are two Super Duties in my garage.
#40
This is all physics 101. My insurance premiums went up with the purchase of my F-250 because, I was told, the damage that is inflicted upon other smaller vehicles in a crash is typically more severe and the occupants of the smaller vehicle are more likely to sustain serious injuries. In addition, because of the height of a Superduty, a typical car is likely to impact primarily at frame level, leaving the SD occupants less likely to become seriously injured. A SD involved in a head-on collision with a Peterbilt is similarly going to be asymmetrically disadvantaged.
#41
This is all physics 101. My insurance premiums went up with the purchase of my F-250 because, I was told, the damage that is inflicted upon other smaller vehicles in a crash is typically more severe and the occupants of the smaller vehicle are more likely to sustain serious injuries. In addition, because of the height of a Superduty, a typical car is likely to impact primarily at frame level, leaving the SD occupants less likely to become seriously injured. A SD involved in a head-on collision with a Peterbilt is similarly going to be asymmetrically disadvantaged.
#42
This is all physics 101. My insurance premiums went up with the purchase of my F-250 because, I was told, the damage that is inflicted upon other smaller vehicles in a crash is typically more severe and the occupants of the smaller vehicle are more likely to sustain serious injuries. In addition, because of the height of a Superduty, a typical car is likely to impact primarily at frame level, leaving the SD occupants less likely to become seriously injured. A SD involved in a head-on collision with a Peterbilt is similarly going to be asymmetrically disadvantaged.
#44
I have an F250 which is my daily driver and its my first truck ever. I have no issues with daily driving it.
Only time I do wish I have a smaller vehicle is when I go to places such as the airport or train station that has parking garages. This truck will not fit in any of them. The Toronto airport has a max height clearance of 6' 6" and the train station has a max height of 6" 10".
Only time I do wish I have a smaller vehicle is when I go to places such as the airport or train station that has parking garages. This truck will not fit in any of them. The Toronto airport has a max height clearance of 6' 6" and the train station has a max height of 6" 10".
#45
We build things a little taller out west, but that's still a good point. I do need to get into a few parking garages, maybe I should check the clearances.
What's stock height in 2017 model year?
Just did some counting and my next truck will be my seventh. Never lifted any if them, but they do seem to be getting taller over time.
What's stock height in 2017 model year?
Just did some counting and my next truck will be my seventh. Never lifted any if them, but they do seem to be getting taller over time.