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5,000 miles on this oil change. Delo 5W-40 Full Synthetic. Report says higher lead but I do quite a bit of city driving unfortunately. I am gonna call about that to double check. What’s your guys thoughts about extending the oil change interval to 7,000 miles? I do have the oil bypass filter setup as well. I personally am thinking about going 7,000 miles this time and see what the report says and go from there.
I'm no expert on oil analysis, but it looks pretty good to me. The iron isn't alarmingly high and given the circumstance and engine, i would be pretty happy with the results, especially the fuel % in oil.
I'm no expert on oil analysis, but it looks pretty good to me. The iron isn't alarmingly high and given the circumstance and engine, i would be pretty happy with the results, especially the fuel % in oil.
It is CJ-4 oil. About the last one I have found that doesn’t have the CK-4 rating. Delo has a grey bottle (CJ-4) that I use, And a blue bottle (CK-4) with the same weight rating. So you have to be careful when buying.
Personally, I think it all looks very good as long as there is no sharp increases, and you should get a call or email if there is. Been doing OA for years on Cats and EMD's.
Afaik, the difference between the blue and silver bottles is that the silver bottles are synthetically blended.
Personally, I think it all looks very good as long as there is no sharp increases, and you should get a call or email if there is. Been doing OA for years on Cats and EMD's.
Afaik, the difference between the blue and silver bottles is that the silver bottles are synthetically blended.
Interesting. Will have to look at the small print. The grey bottle says full synthetic on the front of it. Maybe it’s a sales pitch.
Interesting. Will have to look at the small print. The grey bottle says full synthetic on the front of it. Maybe it’s a sales pitch.
We use Chevron Delo 477 CFO but we get it in bulk by truck, 1,300 gallons every three months or so. It would be a blue label oil. The full synthetic oil will have fully synthesized base stocks, but a percentage of the additive packages will be the same/similar to the asphalt or parafinic base stock products.
Seth, you could go longer...but why? It would only hurt...the way I think...especially if you do city driving like I do.
Who does that service for you? I would like to do mine and share the results. I'm running the Delo CK-4 with Archoil additive. Interested to see how the report fairs. I like how they comment. Was that based on a previous conversation with you? Or was any of that offered up by them?
Seth, you could go longer...but why? It would only hurt...the way I think...especially if you do city driving like I do.
Who does that service for you? I would like to do mine and share the results. I'm running the Delo CK-4 with Archoil additive. Interested to see how the report fairs. I like how they comment. Was that based on a previous conversation with you? Or was any of that offered up by them?
It is through Blackstone Labortories in Fort Wayne, IN. They are a very down to earth company. Even funny on there website. There test kits are free and prepaid postage. They offer up the comments based on the info you give them. Vehicle, mileage and truck and oil, etc. They encourage to call if you have questions as well. It was my first 5,000 miles with this truck so I wanted a baseline to start with. Probably will not do it after every oil change due to the cost but will probably do a couple a year. It’s $28 per test.
I thought from what I read the CK-4 wasn’t good for Powerstrokes? Or does the Archoil make that null and void? Or am I a complete idiot and missed something?
Sweet. Thanks for that. Lol...no you're good man. From what I read...the Archoil makes it null and void. I still don't quite believe Ford isn't just being preppy/yuppy.
Check out the "P1" kit. It comes with the friction modifier(one bottle = one oil change) and a bottle of the fuel treatment which treats 640 gallons of fuel.
Cheapest I have found is on Archoil's own Amazon listing. Their website is good as well. Bill Hewitt from Powerstroke Specialty sells it as well at a pretty good price. I know that if not all, some of the proceeds go to Train-A-Vet I believe. So its a good cause.
not personally a fan of oil sampling but understand why some folks do it.
my problem is that for 28 bucks, I could buy some new oil.
AND, I have never read on any forum, someone say, my iron was high so I pulled my engine and found grenaded lifters.
in my personal case, I have a magnetic drain plug, magnetic steel screen oil filter, and magnetic plugs in my bi pass filter manifold....so I doubt an oil sample will pick up any iron.
some of the other compounds like boron, zinc, phosphorous are the good things new oil has and oil additives have.....so, at least, we can say the oil is still good.
would I drive the oil 2000 more miles.....only if the oil sample lab warranties it and takes responsibility for oil related engine failure.
not personally a fan of oil sampling but understand why some folks do it.
my problem is that for 28 bucks, I could buy some new oil.
AND, I have never read on any forum, someone say, my iron was high so I pulled my engine and found grenaded lifters.
in my personal case, I have a magnetic drain plug, magnetic steel screen oil filter, and magnetic plugs in my bi pass filter manifold....so I doubt an oil sample will pick up any iron.
some of the other compounds like boron, zinc, phosphorous are the good things new oil has and oil additives have.....so, at least, we can say the oil is still good.
would I drive the oil 2000 more miles.....only if the oil sample lab warranties it and takes responsibility for oil related engine failure.
The reason for oil sampling is trend line analysis synthesized with Mean Time Between Failure (MTBF) data. This is used as a predictive maintenance tool. Oil analysis is performed in many applications such as steam and gas turbines, hydraulic systems, transmissions and drive axles in highway and heavy off road vehicles, as well as construction and agricultural equipment. Besides ferrous (magnetic) metals, which is mostly cylinder/liner and piston ring wear, There is aluminum for crankshaft journal/rod and turbocharger bearings. Other benefits are fuel dilution and coolant cross-contamination. I've been doing analysis on fuel, coolant, and lubricating oil on multi-million dollar propulsion systems for years and can truthfully state that it's well worth the cost.
The reason for oil sampling is trend line analysis synthesized with Mean Time Between Failure (MTBF) data. This is used as a predictive maintenance tool. Oil analysis is performed in many applications such as steam and gas turbines, hydraulic systems, transmissions and drive axles in highway and heavy off road vehicles, as well as construction and agricultural equipment. Besides ferrous (magnetic) metals, which is mostly cylinder/liner and piston ring wear, There is aluminum for crankshaft journal/rod and turbocharger bearings. Other benefits are fuel dilution and coolant cross-contamination. I've been doing analysis on fuel, coolant, and lubricating oil on multi-million dollar propulsion systems for years and can truthfully state that it's well worth the cost.
Yes that sounds great But, as I said,I’ve never seen a case of a personal vehicle owner saying my iron or aluminum was high so I pulled the engine and my bearings were shot, lifters fried,etc.All I ever see are the narrative comments on the oil sample saying , good job, oil looks fine, extend the drain ( and pay me for another oil sample).
not personally a fan of oil sampling but understand why some folks do it.
my problem is that for 28 bucks, I could buy some new oil.
AND, I have never read on any forum, someone say, my iron was high so I pulled my engine and found grenaded lifters.
in my personal case, I have a magnetic drain plug, magnetic steel screen oil filter, and magnetic plugs in my bi pass filter manifold....so I doubt an oil sample will pick up any iron.
some of the other compounds like boron, zinc, phosphorous are the good things new oil has and oil additives have.....so, at least, we can say the oil is still good.
would I drive the oil 2000 more miles.....only if the oil sample lab warranties it and takes responsibility for oil related engine failure.
Originally Posted by speakerfritz
Yes that sounds great But, as I said,I’ve never seen a case of a personal vehicle owner saying my iron or aluminum was high so I pulled the engine and my bearings were shot, lifters fried,etc.All I ever see are the narrative comments on the oil sample saying , good job, oil looks fine, extend the drain ( and pay me for another oil sample).
I have been waiting for your thoughts Fritz. I can see your side completely. This is the first time I have ever done this and as I said it was just to get an idea of what the insides were looking like. Not saying it gives a great picture but it does give an idea. I have seen the magnetic drain plug. Where did you pick up the magnetic plugs for the oil bypass manifold?
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