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Old 12-27-2017, 08:06 PM
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some of the nest attached to the roof:
Rust and paint question: I was not planning on getting anything inside the cab painted but should I have the area under the headliner painted. There is some peeling paint and some rust. Especially where the nest was stuck to the roof. What should be done to the underside of the roof? Just primer or primer and meadow Green?
 
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Old 12-27-2017, 08:09 PM
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Color is probably not that important. I would definitely (I did) treat the rusted areas with rust converter and some kind of top coat. Primer/sealer is probably okay. Keep in mind that some primers will actually absorb moisture.
 
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Originally Posted by abe
Rust and paint question: I was not planning on getting anything inside the cab painted but should I have the area under the headliner painted. There is some peeling paint and some rust. Especially where the nest was stuck to the roof. What should be done to the underside of the roof? Just primer or primer and meadow Green?
There is a product called DOM16 made by Dominion Sure Seal that is the equivalent to POR15 but half the price. I would clean up the rusted areas and coat it with something like that and check real good above the doors and windshield. Mouse urine is very corrosive and those areas are prone to rust anyway because they are a good condensation trap. It's my belief that because there was never any insulation up under the headliner that condensation gathered under the roof and hood and the general shape of these parts the water collected at the lowest points and pooled and rusting away the drip rails and the hoods nose piece. Especially if you lived in an area with high humidity like where I am , every summer morning the vehicles are covered in condensation if left outside..
 
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Good progress on the headliner, Abe. Good to see you could recuperate the original - as you say the texture of that is not found in the new replacements I've seen.
 
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There’s also a 80mil product called Noico. It sells on fleebay. I’m considering it for my 56.
 
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Is this the stuff BJ?

Noico Noico
 
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Yes Pete,
I contacted them and they recommended installing the sound control (80 mil) & their WPL1 closed cell foam (150 mil) on top for insulation.
 
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Good progress on the headliner, Abe. Good to see you could recuperate the original - as you say the texture of that is not found in the new replacements I've seen.
If I owned a 53 or 54 Deluxe Cab or a 55 or 56 Custom Cab, I'd be really ticked because no one makes the correct headliner for those cabs. The center section was perforated. The Ford publications of that day called it the thermo-acoustic headliner. It came with 1.5 inches of fiberglass insulation above it.
 
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Old 12-28-2017, 11:34 AM
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There’s also a 80mil product called Noico. It sells on fleebay. I’m considering it for my 56.
I found this stuff on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/p/18-X39-Car-Ro....c100005.m1851

It measures 18 x 39 for $11.75 with free shipping. I'll have to figure out how much I'd need for the roof. If it is water proof I'll put some inside my doors too.
 
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Hey Abe,
Did you check to see if you had a live one in there? That's about the
most comfortable looking mouse nest I've ever seen... You even got it
out with the entrance still intact!

I feel lazy watching you do the roof. Some previous owner had taken down
all the interior roof structure on our truck... no hooks... no metal piece spanning
the cab like you have.. I just sprayed rhino liner to get done. Now I have to circle
back to do it right so I don't get Abe shamed.

Looking good in Pennsylvania... I don't know how you do it. I looked at the weather
forecast up there for the week.. It looks brutal.

Ben in Austin
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Still worried about that stuff staying put in hot weather above the headliner. Anybody use it or similar material in that location?
 
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Still worried about that stuff staying put in hot weather above the headliner. Anybody use it or similar material in that location?
With high temp adhesive spray it should hold, shouldn't it?

18 years ago I put some kind of foil faced insulation in my 54 roof with adhesive spray and it is still holding as far as I can tell.
 
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Ben, don't be shamed by me. I'm one of the slowest to get things done.
 
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See the grain detail in the cardboard in the picture. The reproduction headliners are just plain gray cardboard.

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Here is a pic of the reproduction headliner and kick panel in my 54. A little bit of grain but not like the original.



 


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