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help decoding VIN
Can anyone help me decode the VIN on my 1961 Econoline pickup that I recently aquired? Another member said that alot of the parts on it suggested it is a later model year.I have a clear title but I want to be certain that some one did not change the VIN plate Thanks alot, neveridle
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I fixed the listing for your truck in the VIN table. Since your tag was painted over, it is hard to get the numbers in the right place, especially when you have to skip some fields.
You can see your data here.
Econoline Data
You have a 1961 pickup. That as the first year they made them.
Yours was made durrig the first months, and was not originally equipped with the ballast weight over the gas tank. It was probably recalled and added by the dealer. Do you see the heads of some carriage bolts in the rear bed of the truck over the gas tank?
Yours is a 3/4 ton truck. Regular trucks could carry a half ton of stuff, but yours came with better tires and possibly beefier springs to allow the extra carrying capacity.
You can see your data here.
Econoline Data
You have a 1961 pickup. That as the first year they made them.
Yours was made durrig the first months, and was not originally equipped with the ballast weight over the gas tank. It was probably recalled and added by the dealer. Do you see the heads of some carriage bolts in the rear bed of the truck over the gas tank?
Yours is a 3/4 ton truck. Regular trucks could carry a half ton of stuff, but yours came with better tires and possibly beefier springs to allow the extra carrying capacity.
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Warranty Number: E10SH123950
Warranty Plate: WB: 090 / COLOR: M / MODEL: E102 / TRANS: A / AXLE: 02 / MAX GVW LBS: 04100 / CERT NET HP: 114 / RPM: 4000
E10 = E100.
S = 144 1V I-6.
H = Lorain OH Assembly Plant.
123950 = 1961, assembled December 1960.
90" Wheelbase.
M = Corinthian White.
E102 = E100 .. 4,100 lbs. GVWR (E102 does not decode to Pickup, so it could also be a Van).
A = Ford Light Duty 3 Speed Manual Transmission.
02 = Ford WCC Rear Axle / 4.00-1 / 2,300 lbs. Capacity.
4,100 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
114 net HP @ 4,000 RPM
Warranty Plate: WB: 090 / COLOR: M / MODEL: E102 / TRANS: A / AXLE: 02 / MAX GVW LBS: 04100 / CERT NET HP: 114 / RPM: 4000
E10 = E100.
S = 144 1V I-6.
H = Lorain OH Assembly Plant.
123950 = 1961, assembled December 1960.
90" Wheelbase.
M = Corinthian White.
E102 = E100 .. 4,100 lbs. GVWR (E102 does not decode to Pickup, so it could also be a Van).
A = Ford Light Duty 3 Speed Manual Transmission.
02 = Ford WCC Rear Axle / 4.00-1 / 2,300 lbs. Capacity.
4,100 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
114 net HP @ 4,000 RPM
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That should be "74 net HP at 4,000 RPM," not 114.
Bill makes a good point, that in the first year of production, you can not tell by the door-plate data if it is a van or a pickup. Ford thought it was obvious to just look at it.
Bill makes a good point, that in the first year of production, you can not tell by the door-plate data if it is a van or a pickup. Ford thought it was obvious to just look at it.
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ND whts this vin decode as? E14sh383960 model E144 body 89A Trans A axle 02 GVW 4350 Thanks..Mo
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Looks like that one has been entered at Econoline.org. Click this link.
Econoline Data
That Econoline was part of a special order with a special paint color. Probably military.
3/4-ton payload with the dinky 144 engine!!! It was designed to carry a heavy load, but not in a hurry to get there.
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I am thinking that this may have been a HD. One of the eco guys on FB seems to think the door was swapped out as it was an all window, but the last HD I had was a not seater with all windows, auto and the 9".
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The tag says HD. Ford did make heavy duty (HD) Econolines with and without windows.
As you said, it is easy to swap out the doors and not change the tag.
To find the real VIN:
Look on the cross brace that is behind the tail lights. You should see the VIN stamped on either the left or right side of the van. It's on the side of the cross brace that faces the front of the van, so it is usually easy to see.
The other place to find the VIN is stamped in the floor under the lip of the dog house. You have to remove the dog house, and all of the black goo to see the VIN.
Starting in 1965, the VIN is also stamped on the small hump behind the dog house.
The tag says HD. Ford did make heavy duty (HD) Econolines with and without windows.
As you said, it is easy to swap out the doors and not change the tag.
To find the real VIN:
Look on the cross brace that is behind the tail lights. You should see the VIN stamped on either the left or right side of the van. It's on the side of the cross brace that faces the front of the van, so it is usually easy to see.
The other place to find the VIN is stamped in the floor under the lip of the dog house. You have to remove the dog house, and all of the black goo to see the VIN.
Starting in 1965, the VIN is also stamped on the small hump behind the dog house.
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E14 = E100 Van.
S = 144 1V I-6.
H = Lorain OH Assembly Plant.
383960 = 1963, assembled February 1963.
E144 = E100 Van, 4,350 lbs. GVWR
89A = Econoline Van (Standard).
A = Ford 3 Speed Manual Transmission.
02 = Ford WCC Rear Axle / 4.00-1 / 2,300 lbs. Axle Capacity.
4,350 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
79 net HP @ 4,000 RPM
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The additional data were entered at Econoline.org.
The paint code was blank.
Wheelbase is 090, which is a 90" wheelbase.
The Regional Sales District is 71 for Los Angeles.
The Special Order number is 0474.
Often, Econolines with a special order number had no paint code. The military had their special colors, as did corporate fleet customers, and thus, since it was not a regular Ford color, the paint code was left blank. In California, Pacific Bell and Pacific Gas & Electric ordered a few Econolines during these years.
There are three Econolines in the database at Econoline.org with the same special order number, and all built in February 1963. The first one has a paint code for Caribbean Turquoise, the other two were left blank. Maybe a Sears fleet truck?
The paint code was blank.
Wheelbase is 090, which is a 90" wheelbase.
The Regional Sales District is 71 for Los Angeles.
The Special Order number is 0474.
Often, Econolines with a special order number had no paint code. The military had their special colors, as did corporate fleet customers, and thus, since it was not a regular Ford color, the paint code was left blank. In California, Pacific Bell and Pacific Gas & Electric ordered a few Econolines during these years.
There are three Econolines in the database at Econoline.org with the same special order number, and all built in February 1963. The first one has a paint code for Caribbean Turquoise, the other two were left blank. Maybe a Sears fleet truck?
You omitted some of the codes.
E14 = E100 Van.
S = 144 1V I-6.
H = Lorain OH Assembly Plant.
383960 = 1963, assembled February 1963.
E144 = E100 Van, 4,350 lbs. GVWR
89A = Econoline Van (Standard).
A = Ford 3 Speed Manual Transmission.
02 = Ford WCC Rear Axle / 4.00-1 / 2,300 lbs. Axle Capacity.
4,350 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
79 net HP @ 4,000 RPM
E14 = E100 Van.
S = 144 1V I-6.
H = Lorain OH Assembly Plant.
383960 = 1963, assembled February 1963.
E144 = E100 Van, 4,350 lbs. GVWR
89A = Econoline Van (Standard).
A = Ford 3 Speed Manual Transmission.
02 = Ford WCC Rear Axle / 4.00-1 / 2,300 lbs. Axle Capacity.
4,350 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
79 net HP @ 4,000 RPM
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You're asking for this decode in the wrong forum. This forum is for 1957/79 Ranchero & 1961/67 Econoline.
Since you have a 1990 F250, you should ask for this decode and etc questions in the 1987/96 F150 and larger F series truck forum.
Since you have a 1990 F250, you should ask for this decode and etc questions in the 1987/96 F150 and larger F series truck forum.