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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 03:00 PM
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91,794 miles
3892 engine hours
1846 idle hours
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Seems like a lot of traveling with this 2016 plus high idle hours. Office on wheels?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 03:02 PM
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My 2012 has...
134,800 miles
3,701 Engine hours
989 Idle hours

36.2 mph average.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 03:50 PM
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Just turning 55k miles on my 14 with something like 5,000 run hours and 2500 idle hours, I would have to check again it's been quite awhile since I looked.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
Seems like a lot of traveling with this 2016 plus high idle hours. Office on wheels?
It was an oilfield truck from Texas. Had 81,000 on it when I bought it in August. There is no telling what it’s been through. But you’d never know it. Still strong and in great shape.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rootpass
It was an oilfield truck from Texas. Had 81,000 on it when I bought it in August. There is no telling what it’s been through. But you’d never know it. Still strong and in great shape.
same with my 2014 sorta.
only mine was natural gas, Pioneer Energy.
supervisors truck, with 93,000 miles on it.
i also got the truck with 12 pages of service reports, all dome by the same dealer in Texas where it was bought, and traded back in when the only driver retired January first of this year.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
same with my 2014 sorta.
only mine was natural gas, Pioneer Energy.
supervisors truck, with 93,000 miles on it.
i also got the truck with 12 pages of service reports, all dome by the same dealer in Texas where it was bought, and traded back in when the only driver retired January first of this year.
I wasn’t lucky enough to get the service records but I did buy the Ford premium extended service plan. And that gives me piece of mind. For the next 26,000 miles or so. I did have the front hubs rebuilt and front axle universal joints plus tie rod ends/ ball joints replaced under the warranty. And an O2 sensor. The CEL came back on but I had to get from a job in Texas to North Carolina so I’ll let a dealer here have a go at it. With the high idle hours I’m guessing the catalytic converters need replacing. It sure pulls my 32’ Holiday Rambler TT good. 70 mph all day. A good weight distribution hitch and sway bars are more important to me than 3.73 or 4.30 gears. But I love this truck and plan on ordering a brand new one in a couple years. With 4.30s!
 
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 07:14 PM
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How are y’all figuring lifetime mileage? Total hours minus idle hours then divide the mileage by those hours?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rootpass
How are y’all figuring lifetime mileage? Total hours minus idle hours then divide the mileage by those hours?
that is the 10 dollar question,,

Running hours
idle hours.

are idle hours included with the running hours OR are they separate.

mine
138,000 at 4,100 hours
600 idle hours... I am thinking separate. or this number would be higher.

my question... is idle hours.. with transmission in park... or are the minutes added at stop lights.. in drive idling ????

I clearly do NOT have the answer.. I wish I did.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 09:05 PM
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I won't swear on it but when I was paying attention when new idle hours was parked.
I'll pay attention next time on a longer drive unless someon has more definitive answer.

But then there is this, not sure if it's what we're trying to figure out. Hours... or Miles? | Hendon Publishing

Or this...Measuring Hours vs. Miles in Medium-Duty Truck Performance - Chatty Chassis - TruckingInfo.com
 
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 06:34 AM
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Thanks for the links. those are good reads.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 06:38 AM
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I found this interesting from one of those links.

"Ford Fleet has determined that one hour of idling is equal to the engine wear of driving 33 miles. Assume that 50% of the time is spent idling. In 200 hours, the odometer may show 2,000 miles, but we have to add the idling-equivalent hours, which in this case is 3,300 miles, i.e., 100 hours times 33 miles. The actual wear on the engine after 2,000 miles is really the wear after 5,300 miles, i.e., 2,000 odometer miles plus 3,300 miles idling."

so my idle hours (1846) x 33 = an additional 60,918 miles for a grand total of 152,712 miles
 
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Rootpass
I wasn’t lucky enough to get the service records but I did buy the Ford premium extended service plan. And that gives me piece of mind. For the next 26,000 miles or so. I did have the front hubs rebuilt and front axle universal joints plus tie rod ends/ ball joints replaced under the warranty. And an O2 sensor. The CEL came back on but I had to get from a job in Texas to North Carolina so I’ll let a dealer here have a go at it. With the high idle hours I’m guessing the catalytic converters need replacing. It sure pulls my 32’ Holiday Rambler TT good. 70 mph all day. A good weight distribution hitch and sway bars are more important to me than 3.73 or 4.30 gears. But I love this truck and plan on ordering a brand new one in a couple years. With 4.30s!
my truck was on the rough service maintenance plan from the dealer, so it got oil chance every 3,000 miles, trans service, front wheel bearings, and universals every 30,000 miles.
when i got it the oil, front bearings, and all universals were just changed, and trans was just serviced.

funny thing was it needed plugs, cats, and 02 sensors though. guess they did not want to throw another 3 grand at it just to sell it.
the rear door was never opened either. i had to force it open because the hinges were almost seized.
took almost a full can of penetrating oil to get the hinges freed up.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 09:40 AM
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my question... is idle hours.. with transmission in park... or are the minutes added at stop lights.. in drive idling ????

I clearly do NOT have the answer.. I wish I did.
After doing some more searching I found this in a 2008 Crown Victoria Supplement pdf, pg4
IDLE METER
Your vehicle may be equipped with an idle meter to indicate how much time the vehicle is idling in Park or Neutral. The meter is incorporated with the vehicle odometer. Depressing the odometer-reset button once will display the trip odometer (miles followed by a T for trip odometer). Depressing the odometer-reset button a second time will display the idle meter (hours followed by an h for hours). The idle meter only accumulates time when the vehicle is in Park or Neutral.
Displayed time is cumulative for the vehicle. It cannot be reset to zero. Police/Fleet vehicles often experience long periods of idling, during which engine oil will continue to break down but mileage is not accumulated on the odometer.
To assist fleet managers in maintaining proper oil change intervals, the idle meter will help determine when an oil change is required. For every hour that the vehicle idles, it has accumulated the equivalent of approximately 33 miles (53 km) of driving. Using the combination of the vehicle odometer and idle meter allows the fleet manager to better determine when the oil needs to be changed.

I find it hard to believe Ford would of changed how they track the hours.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 10:34 AM
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After reading some of the numbers in this thread I may actually start letting my truck idle for five minutes without getting wigged out.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
my truck was on the rough service maintenance plan from the dealer, so it got oil chance every 3,000 miles, trans service, front wheel bearings, and universals every 30,000 miles.
when i got it the oil, front bearings, and all universals were just changed, and trans was just serviced.

funny thing was it needed plugs, cats, and 02 sensors though. guess they did not want to throw another 3 grand at it just to sell it.
the rear door was never opened either. i had to force it open because the hinges were almost seized.
took almost a full can of penetrating oil to get the hinges freed up.

Most of our trucks back doors are super stiff to open to the point that people think they are locked when they try to open them and they are open/closed all the time.

We have had zero converters/exhaust issues but I go from extreme idle time to WOT and I would guess that blows the exhaust out, idle and light throttle all the time would cause it's own issues.

I cannot understand why they would replace wheel bearings and U-joints every 30,000 miles, I could see that being on a 100,000 or as needed schedule but other then that it seems pointless.
 
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