2017 idle length
Tuned
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With the truck running, started without remote, or started by remote start and now running as you have pushed the start button, then you turn off Auto Stop in advanced settings in the dash. You will get the double honk when you leave and lock the truck. This is why when you open the door you get the warning the truck is running. That's when I do the auto stop off if I am leaving it running. For the sake of occupants, I would check this out and test. But this will work on a one time basis.
The double honks is meant to warn you your leaving the vehicle running so it's not in a garage and fuming out the house. The limited idle times, is to protect the environment primarily but also the trucks emission systems and diesels in general don't like idling for long periods of time. A waste of fuel and hard on the engine. Diesels will wet stack, or wash the cylinder walls from long periods of idling with excess unburnt the diesel fuel. The way to avoid that is the hi idle mod from an upfitter switch.
This increase in idle will charge batteries, run everything better electrically and avoid the wet stacking. This is why I got Forscan for Christmas and an OBDLink is so I can remove the double honk, set up high idle and be able to to this for the sake of my family and dog. Summer for AC, but more especially for winter cold.
We just had a 3 week spell of -20 to -25 C, and we are about to go back to it for a few weeks again. We had a few days of -35 for nights, all this idle time and warm up time and cold temps is killing fuel mileage for sure.
The double honks is meant to warn you your leaving the vehicle running so it's not in a garage and fuming out the house. The limited idle times, is to protect the environment primarily but also the trucks emission systems and diesels in general don't like idling for long periods of time. A waste of fuel and hard on the engine. Diesels will wet stack, or wash the cylinder walls from long periods of idling with excess unburnt the diesel fuel. The way to avoid that is the hi idle mod from an upfitter switch.
This increase in idle will charge batteries, run everything better electrically and avoid the wet stacking. This is why I got Forscan for Christmas and an OBDLink is so I can remove the double honk, set up high idle and be able to to this for the sake of my family and dog. Summer for AC, but more especially for winter cold.
We just had a 3 week spell of -20 to -25 C, and we are about to go back to it for a few weeks again. We had a few days of -35 for nights, all this idle time and warm up time and cold temps is killing fuel mileage for sure.
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I am very glad I found this thread before I killed my dog. I would leave her in my idling 6.0 powerstroke all the time with the AC blasting in the summer. If the AC turns off when it's 110f out, the dog is dead. Interior temps can push 180F.
This truley upsets me, because I had no idea. Frigging enviormentalists.
This truley upsets me, because I had no idea. Frigging enviormentalists.
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I was simply stating that you can leave a truck idling indefinitely, this guy was worried about it over heating or hurting the truck for some reason.
The Super Duty's I use are NOT '17-'18's having said that we do have brand new ones but they are F-550 6.7 and they also run all day without shutting off.
Are you seriously telling me the truck shuts off with the key turned on? If that is the case I will not be ordering a new truck as I am in Florida and my truck runs with A/C blasting for my dog for hours.
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J Standard, it's the clean air idle mandate by the Fed. I have Pete 389's and the 2018 has a 5 minute shutoff if the parking brake is set. There's no work around in the factory settings. The only way to keep it on is to release the brakes within the 5 minute window and it resets the timer. The smaller trucks will have a longer time programmed but will still time and but at the least they're able to give you a cancel switch, not on the big boys.
I found if I leave the truck in gear with the brake set it will idle forever, I was just worried it would go into Regen and take off.
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There is a check box for Auto Engine Off. Auto Settings > Advanced Settings > Vehicle - uncheck the Auto Engine Off box. However you will have to do this every time you start the truck as the box will have a check mark in it upon restarting.
See post #2 here https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...o-disable.html
See post #2 here https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...o-disable.html
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From: Florence SC
Is auto engine off something that is specific to start button trucks? My lariat 6.7 with a regular key will idle indefinitely (at least an hour, ive done it) and does not have an auto engine off setting as described above. Remote start will timeout after 5,10, or 15 minutes.
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Is auto engine off something that is specific to start button trucks? My lariat 6.7 with a regular key will idle indefinitely (at least an hour, ive done it) and does not have an auto engine off setting as described above. Remote start will timeout after 5,10, or 15 minutes.
Mountain Pass
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From: Scenic Vermont
No, I really just think it’s the diesels that do it. Lots of guys with gassers let them idle as long as they want.
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I'll check mine when I get back in the truck later, but I could've sworn that I don't have the auto idle shutdown cancel via the cluster. Maybe its different on CDN market trucks? I too would like to disable this permanently. I've scoured multiple sites / forums, no solution from what I can see.
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From: Gilbert, PA
The other guy said he has a '06 6.0...
I was simply stating that you can leave a truck idling indefinitely, this guy was worried about it over heating or hurting the truck for some reason.
The Super Duty's I use are NOT '17-'18's having said that we do have brand new ones but they are F-550 6.7 and they also run all day without shutting off.
Are you seriously telling me the truck shuts off with the key turned on? If that is the case I will not be ordering a new truck as I am in Florida and my truck runs with A/C blasting for my dog for hours.
I was simply stating that you can leave a truck idling indefinitely, this guy was worried about it over heating or hurting the truck for some reason.
The Super Duty's I use are NOT '17-'18's having said that we do have brand new ones but they are F-550 6.7 and they also run all day without shutting off.
Are you seriously telling me the truck shuts off with the key turned on? If that is the case I will not be ordering a new truck as I am in Florida and my truck runs with A/C blasting for my dog for hours.
Fleet Owner
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From: Gilbert, PA
nope we have 2 2017 6.2s at work that cut them selves off after 15 min
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Fortunately, its not summer, so no need to leave it running with the A/C. I'll test this out next month when I get back to my truck.
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Mountain Pass
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Um, yeah. That has Bad Idea written all over it.