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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 12:16 AM
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Do 400s actually exist?

Im looking for a rebuildable 400 core for my 78 f-250. Ive only ever seen 351M motors. Yet everyone on here claims to have a 400.


If anyone knows where to find a post 78 built 400 in the NEPA area, give me a heads up.


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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hail destroyer
Im looking for a rebuildable 400 core for my 78 f-250. Ive only ever seen 351M motors. Yet everyone on here claims to have a 400.


If anyone knows where to find a post 78 built 400 in the NEPA area, give me a heads up.


Thanks
I'm far from an expert but from reading this thread you started https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-to-400-a.html I gather that a 351m block would be the same as a 400 block. How will you find a 400 core (block I assume?) if there is no difference? What exactly are you looking for?


I've been wrong before though.




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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 06:06 AM
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All are 351m blocks.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 06:46 AM
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A quick search on Car-part.com resulted in;
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Ford Bronco Full Size400M REBUILT NEEDS STARTED, RED-RED 9559$935ARichner Auto Parts USA-PA(Milesburg) Request_Quote 814-355-3851 Request_Insurance_Quote
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Ford Bronco400 / Runs Good C-327$500Route 57 Auto Salvage USA-NJ(Port-Murrary) Request_Quote 908-689-0013 Request_Insurance_Quote
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Ford Truck F100351M-400? NEEDS CHECKED B12006F$300ARichner Auto Parts USA-PA(Milesburg) Request_Quote 814-355-3851 Request_Insurance_Quote
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Ford Truck F250400M NEEDS REBIULT UPULL, BLUE-BLUE 65077$125ARichner Auto Parts USA-PA(Milesburg) Request_Quote 814-355-3851 Request_Insurance_Quote
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Ford BroncoPARTS 120410$CallCosty's Auto Parts USA-PA(Mansfield) Request_Quote 1-800-424-7772 Request_Insurance_Quote
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Ford Truck F350 $CallSteiner's Auto Sales & Parts, Inc. USA-PA(Lebanon) Request_Quote 1-800-640-3390 Request_Insurance_Quote
 
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 06:47 AM
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That's if NEPA is in PA?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 07:41 AM
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351m and 400 blocks are the same thing.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 07:56 AM
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I just sold my 400 on cl for $100. Took forever to even get that for it complete even with a Edelbrock Performer 400 on it. Mine ran ok didn't use oil but still sold it as buy a intake get a motor lol.

I might be getting another 78 F250 parts truck for the d60. I know it has a 400 so if that happens maybe I'll have one for sale.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 11:08 AM
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All are 351m blocks.
Actually they are all 400 blocks.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 11:58 AM
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I had the same issue when I looked to build my 400. Check regularly and check for both 351m and 400 blocks, as they are the same. Pistons and crank being the only differences.

My best advice though, I regret not doing this, find a 460 and build that. They cost nearly the same to build, 460 are everywhere, only a few parts needed to fit into your truck. If you're going for original, obviously this isn't an option. If it's about difficulty, it's not that difficult.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 12:06 PM
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Or are they all 335 blocks?

I got a rebuilt shortblock from a guy once who'd gotten the wrong engine out of the classifieds, bought as a "335 block", thinking it was a bored 330 truck engine.

As far as parts, the crank and balancer are the only 400 things you really need, assuming you're using new pistons, the rods are the same too.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeHan
Or are they all 335 blocks?

I got a rebuilt shortblock from a guy once who'd gotten the wrong engine out of the classifieds, bought as a "335 block", thinking it was a bored 330 truck engine.

As far as parts, the crank and balancer are the only 400 things you really need, assuming you're using new pistons, the rods are the same too.
Curious, how are the balancers different?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 03:04 PM
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The 1977/82 351M/400 block is the same, because the block casting number: D7TE-6015-A2B is the same.

The only difference 351M vs. 400 is the crank and pistons, everything else is the same.

351M/400: 1977/79 F100/350; 1978/82 Bronco; 1980/82 E100/350 (400 only); 1980/82 F150/350.

The 351M & 400 harmonic balancers might be the same, might not be...it depends on the applications.

btw: Magnaflux the heads before doing anything with them, as they are very prone to cracking!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 03:25 PM
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351M/400 Performance Build Up Resources Sources

Towards the end, it talks about it a little bit - seems like I remember reading about it somewhere else, and I do know that my two '78 F-250's, one 351M one 400, have different part #'s on them. But NumberDummy is correct, I'm sure, it might just be a fluke that mine were different.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeHan
351M/400 Performance Build Up Resources Sources

Towards the end, it talks about it a little bit - seems like I remember reading about it somewhere else, and I do know that my two '78 F-250's, one 351M one 400, have different part #'s on them. But NumberDummy is correct, I'm sure, it might just be a fluke that mine were different.
The 351M and 400 installed in cars have different block casting numbers than F100/350's, Bronco's and Econolines.

And these are block casting numbers, not part numbers. There are no part numbers marked on parts after 1956.

351M/400 car applications:

351M: 1975/79 Ford/Merc Passenger Cars.

400: 1971/79 Ford/Merc Passenger Cars; some 1978 Lincoln/Continental Mark V (some have 460's); all 1979 Lincoln/Continental Mark V
 
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 04:16 PM
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We were talking about dampers, not blocks. Two pickups, both '78 model, 1-400, 1-351M, different part number dampers. Sorry I wasn't clear enough.

Okay fine, balancer, not damper.
 
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