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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 12:35 PM
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use Engine Break when not towing?

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Just wondering if it is ok to use the Engine Break when not towing? Just driving around town. Thinking it will save on breaks and I like the way it works. Thank you for your input.


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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 12:52 PM
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Absolutely. You can use it anytime you like with no harm done. The engine brake doesn't know if the truck is towing or not.

It is actually the turbocharger that is being used to create pressure against the pistons which slows the engine down.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 12:55 PM
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Yep. No worries for the truck. You could run with it on for the life of the truck. I turn mine on for a few long downhill runs around here and it works great. I've also left it on and found it doesn't really do much in city traffic. I'd say use it like you want to. If you like it and don't mind hitting the button every time you drive, go for it.
Brakes are pretty cheap and easy to replace, though...
 
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 01:43 PM
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Thanks guys appreciate it!!!
 
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 01:56 PM
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I use mine all the time, and I use manual shifting to reduce brake usage, where feasible, possible. It really does make a difference, how long the brakes last. Kind of fun to drive as well. I can come to almost a complete stop with shifting and engine braking empty as long as I plan ahead a bit. It is good for the motor, doesnt hurt a thing. I say use it as much or as little as you like.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 02:07 PM
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Try using the tow/haul mode in town...it will help slow the monster down!!
 
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 02:44 PM
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In my 6.7 Cummins I turned the engine brake every time I started the truck. The only time I didn't use it was when the roads were slippery. Common thought on the Cummins forums was that frequent usage cut down on carbon buildup on the turbo. And it does help extend brake life.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2017 | 07:08 PM
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oh yea . engine brake n tow haul . second n third buttons I touch .. first is the start button .. save the brakes .. and all that cleaning due to these chit brake pads lol
 
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Old Nov 9, 2017 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 6.2caribou
In my 6.7 Cummins I turned the engine brake every time I started the truck. The only time I didn't use it was when the roads were slippery. Common thought on the Cummins forums was that frequent usage cut down on carbon buildup on the turbo. And it does help extend brake life.
Excuse my ignorance - What's the issue with using the exhaust brake when the roads are slippery?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2017 | 07:59 PM
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Two questions....

Does the exhaust brake put extra stress on the turbo?

Secondly, what is the difference between the auto diesel brake or the on all the time.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Excuse my ignorance - What's the issue with using the exhaust brake when the roads are slippery?
Both tow haul and the exhaust brake effectively apply a braking force to the rear wheels only. With the already light rear end, rear wheel braking can cause the back end to slide out. If you’re already in a turn you can lose control pretty quickly when the engine decides to brake and the rear end slides straight ahead as the front turns.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2017 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nuctrooper
Both tow haul and the exhaust brake effectively apply a braking force to the rear wheels only. With the already light rear end, rear wheel braking can cause the back end to slide out. If you’re already in a turn you can lose control pretty quickly when the engine decides to brake and the rear end slides straight ahead as the front turns.
Also, there’s no ABS action on engine braking.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2017 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by nuctrooper
Both tow haul and the exhaust brake effectively apply a braking force to the rear wheels only. With the already light rear end, rear wheel braking can cause the back end to slide out. If you’re already in a turn you can lose control pretty quickly when the engine decides to brake and the rear end slides straight ahead as the front turns.
in Orlando on I-4 eastbound just before Winter Park there is an spot in the road which is a turn going downhill seems to cause a lot of tractor trailers to have accidents-- wonder if that is an issue for them on rainy days as they slow with the engine break
 
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Old Nov 10, 2017 | 05:51 AM
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From my understanding the engine brake/ retarder is only an issue when it just starts raining due to contamination/ oils coming up off the road may cause slipping other than after it's been wet for a while your good to keep using your exhaust brake.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2017 | 06:03 AM
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As I understand the workings of the system, would it not be detrimental to your mileage as well?

It normal conditions, when you left of the throttle an coast, you have back pressure from the engine, on the drive line that applies a braking force. My understanding is the turbo is used to help increase this back pressure, to generate additional braking force. It seems to me that it would just cut down the distance the truck will coast, thus requiring you to use the throttle sooner, and decreasing mileage.
 
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