6.0 fuel issue
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Usually when it fails a bubble test you start pulling the glow plugs one at a time until the bubbles stop that will tell you which injector is bad.
But if you have the cash I would just change them all on what ever side you found the issue with that way you know they are done and it will run that much better.
But if you have the cash I would just change them all on what ever side you found the issue with that way you know they are done and it will run that much better.
#47
6.0 fuel issue
Got my injectors out today and want to post pics if I can figure this out. Also I notice on the injectors that there is a white substance on each of the lower 0 rings. Injector 8 has some burned on oil by the bottom. I will display injectors in order here. Is there any way of testing these out of truck? Also notice rust between the 0 rings. Please let me know what you might see in these pics? Thanks. Pics are injectors 2,4,6, and 8.
#48
If u have the 10mm stand pipes... Replace them. As for the injectors... It's up to you. Be sure you get motorcraft tho.
I wouldn't worry about the white stuff.... Just clean the injector cup with a real brass brush (most are bras coated steel) or an old toothbrush or something. Coat the orings in oil and you are good.
I wouldn't worry about the white stuff.... Just clean the injector cup with a real brass brush (most are bras coated steel) or an old toothbrush or something. Coat the orings in oil and you are good.
#49
Bottom o ring is white in color when new. Rust color shouldnt be there, its most likely caused by cheap filters (cheap filters don't have the water wicking mesh on the lower water separator filter). Also two main reasons why 6.0 injector tips split: water, and low fuel pressure. clean and inspect each injector tip of the old injectors. (injector tip cracks are visible to the naked eye if you have good eye sight.) Hopefully a tip hasn't chunked off. As what Dark Star said, go with motorcraft injectors. cant go wrong with them. get the motorcraft 9t517 fuel pressure regulator kit also. and use your favorite fuel aditive/cetane booster /Anti Gel. change your filters often. 6 liters appreciate tender loving care. And also some one else said to replace all injectors, I also agree with that. All 8 injectors have been subjected to the same abuse.
#50
6.0 fuel delivery
If u have the 10mm stand pipes... Replace them. As for the injectors... It's up to you. Be sure you get motorcraft tho.
I wouldn't worry about the white stuff.... Just clean the injector cup with a real brass brush (most are bras coated steel) or an old toothbrush or something. Coat the orings in oil and you are good.
I wouldn't worry about the white stuff.... Just clean the injector cup with a real brass brush (most are bras coated steel) or an old toothbrush or something. Coat the orings in oil and you are good.
#51
6.0 fuel delivery
Bottom o ring is white in color when new. Rust color shouldnt be there, its most likely caused by cheap filters (cheap filters don't have the water wicking mesh on the lower water separator filter). Also two main reasons why 6.0 injector tips split: water, and low fuel pressure. clean and inspect each injector tip of the old injectors. (injector tip cracks are visible to the naked eye if you have good eye sight.) Hopefully a tip hasn't chunked off. As what Dark Star said, go with motorcraft injectors. cant go wrong with them. get the motorcraft 9t517 fuel pressure regulator kit also. and use your favorite fuel aditive/cetane booster /Anti Gel. change your filters often. 6 liters appreciate tender loving care. And also some one else said to replace all injectors, I also agree with that. All 8 injectors have been subjected to the same abuse.
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I wouldn’t soak the injectors in any solution. Also wouldn’t take them apart you’ll just be opening a can of worms. When I re-oringed my injectors I used a brass wire brush and just cleaned the nozzles off. You could soak the tips in maybe sea foam or penetrating oil. I also cleaned the spool valves but it is something that needs to be done with extreme care. There have been people that attempt cleaning the spool valves and end up with more problems and a set of new injectors.
When you ring the injectors use clean oil. Also clean the injector cups. Make sure you remove all the copper washers from the injectors and use a camera to double check the cups.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ed-for-it.html
When you ring the injectors use clean oil. Also clean the injector cups. Make sure you remove all the copper washers from the injectors and use a camera to double check the cups.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ed-for-it.html
#53
I wouldn’t soak the injectors in any solution. Also wouldn’t take them apart you’ll just be opening a can of worms. When I re-oringed my injectors I used a brass wire brush and just cleaned the nozzles off. You could soak the tips in maybe sea foam or penetrating oil. I also cleaned the spool valves but it is something that needs to be done with extreme care. There have been people that attempt cleaning the spool valves and end up with more problems and a set of new injectors.
x2... you can also clean the tips with 2000 grit fine sand paper.. just make sure the ports on the tip dont get clogged... if you decide to pull the spool valves make sure you keep the orientation correct... you can get them backwards... and as fizn stated... be very careful when doing so... especially when tightening the bolt that holds the spool valves magnets in place.. it is VERY easy to snap it.. and if its too tight then it can prevent the valve from cycling properly..
#54
6.0 fuel delivery
I wouldn’t soak the injectors in any solution. Also wouldn’t take them apart you’ll just be opening a can of worms. When I re-oringed my injectors I used a brass wire brush and just cleaned the nozzles off. You could soak the tips in maybe sea foam or penetrating oil. I also cleaned the spool valves but it is something that needs to be done with extreme care. There have been people that attempt cleaning the spool valves and end up with more problems and a set of new injectors.
When you ring the injectors use clean oil. Also clean the injector cups. Make sure you remove all the copper washers from the injectors and use a camera to double check the cups.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ed-for-it.html
When you ring the injectors use clean oil. Also clean the injector cups. Make sure you remove all the copper washers from the injectors and use a camera to double check the cups.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ed-for-it.html
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6.0 fuel delivery
x2... you can also clean the tips with 2000 grit fine sand paper.. just make sure the ports on the tip dont get clogged... if you decide to pull the spool valves make sure you keep the orientation correct... you can get them backwards... and as fizn stated... be very careful when doing so... especially when tightening the bolt that holds the spool valves magnets in place.. it is VERY easy to snap it.. and if its too tight then it can prevent the valve from cycling properly..
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When I had a failed injector I decide to clean the spool valves on the remaining sticks but really saw no difference in performance when I was done. Was my stiction not that bad to notice any difference who knows. However if your going to do them the only advice I can give is to leave an injector untouched as in don’t remove the spool valve. You will need to “feel” the torque setting on the spool bolt between the old injector and the one being reinstalled.
He’s a picture of the parts I used when the time came.
He’s a picture of the parts I used when the time came.
#57
I do not advise taking the injectors apart. Iirc Ford addressed the stiction issue by a redesign of the internals. Be sure you locate the brass washer for each injector and replace it.
I just brushed the tips when I resealed mine... No soaking was needed.
My thinking is that if the injectors is bad enough to warrant cleaning the spool valve, it would be a temporary fix at best, and you will end up replacing it anyway.
Richard
I just brushed the tips when I resealed mine... No soaking was needed.
My thinking is that if the injectors is bad enough to warrant cleaning the spool valve, it would be a temporary fix at best, and you will end up replacing it anyway.
Richard
#58
6.0 fuel delivery
When I had a failed injector I decide to clean the spool valves on the remaining sticks but really saw no difference in performance when I was done. Was my stiction not that bad to notice any difference who knows. However if your going to do them the only advice I can give is to leave an injector untouched as in don’t remove the spool valve. You will need to “feel” the torque setting on the spool bolt between the old injector and the one being reinstalled.
He’s a picture of the parts I used when the time came.
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He’s a picture of the parts I used when the time came.
[IMG]https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.ford-trucks.com-vbulletin/2000x1493/80-image_384e59810094070934323668c839dbbf114372a
#59
6.0 fuel delivery
I do not advise taking the injectors apart. Iirc Ford addressed the stiction issue by a redesign of the internals. Be sure you locate the brass washer for each injector and replace it.
I just brushed the tips when I resealed mine... No soaking was needed.
My thinking is that if the injectors is bad enough to warrant cleaning the spool valve, it would be a temporary fix at best, and you will end up replacing it anyway.
Richard
I just brushed the tips when I resealed mine... No soaking was needed.
My thinking is that if the injectors is bad enough to warrant cleaning the spool valve, it would be a temporary fix at best, and you will end up replacing it anyway.
Richard
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Stiction is usually NOT associated with a no start. It occurs at first cold start when the oil is thicker. It truck will run rough and lack a little on power but goes away after it starts to warm up.
The spool bolt torque is the “feel” torque I was talking about. When loosening the nut you will feel like it will break but then it will snap so to speak then the nut will come loose. The nut is like a crush nut don’t know if they crush it when the torque value is achieved or before. I spun the old injector bolt and tried to get the same spin resistance.
Did you read the link I posted a few posts back?
The spool bolt torque is the “feel” torque I was talking about. When loosening the nut you will feel like it will break but then it will snap so to speak then the nut will come loose. The nut is like a crush nut don’t know if they crush it when the torque value is achieved or before. I spun the old injector bolt and tried to get the same spin resistance.
Did you read the link I posted a few posts back?