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I got 11.0 towing a 9700 lb trailer 9600 miles from California to fairbanks and back. I started the trip with 1800 on the odometer.
I generally drove 60-65 but there were many miles at 30-40 on the Alaskan hwy and some 70 mph highway miles.
The picture below is the overall trip. driveway to driveway
What would be the range on the 6.7 towing with a full tank?
Got to admit, I was a little disappointed to only get 8.4 on flat ground. The power was great, even passed a slow moving truck on a 2-lane, and was able to out-accelerate a Toyota Rav 4 that was trying to pass me and the truck in front of me. Got a middle finger salute for that one.
If I can jump up 20% in MPG and a better towing range will move up to the 6.7 when I find a deal.
Wonder why the diesel is only getting 10-20% better towing MPG. That's a looooooooong time to get some return on that diesel engine.
Yes, I know about better engine braking etc...
From what I can tell, gathering data from not just this thread but many others, is the 6.7 gets about 3 MPG better than the gasser.
So the break even with that advantage and using $3.00 diesel (Diesel is cheaper than 87 octane where I live...$2.39 is what I paid this weekend...I know it's higher is other areas of the country).
My rough math estimate puts the break even at around 125-135,000 miles for the PSD upgrade.
This doesn't take into consideration any repairs (you get a much longer warranty with the PSD) or the cost of maintenance. What you do get is higher capacity, easier towing, less work or shifting for the transmission and other benefits that are maybe more subjective.
If you are going to lease it for 3 years and trade it in and you are not towing to capacity then the gasser might be better for many people. If you are owning for the long haul and towing heavier loads then maybe the oil burner is the way to go.
This thread is providing the kind of real-world data I look to help my decision.
I know it's probably not going to pencil out for what I need but owning a large travel trailer doesn't pencil out either, or getting married, etc. (LOL).
From what I can tell, gathering data from not just this thread but many others, is the 6.7 gets about 3 MPG better than the gasser.
So the break even with that advantage and using $3.00 diesel (Diesel is cheaper than 87 octane where I live...$2.39 is what I paid this weekend...I know it's higher is other areas of the country).
My rough math estimate puts the break even at around 125-135,000 miles for the PSD upgrade.
This doesn't take into consideration any repairs (you get a much longer warranty with the PSD) or the cost of maintenance. What you do get is higher capacity, easier towing, less work or shifting for the transmission and other benefits that are maybe more subjective.
If you are going to lease it for 3 years and trade it in and you are not towing to capacity then the gasser might be better for many people. If you are owning for the long haul and towing heavier loads then maybe the oil burner is the way to go.
Ford's powertrain warranty doesn't change for diesels I see the engine itself is 100,000 so it drops out before it pays off.
From what I can tell, gathering data from not just this thread but many others, is the 6.7 gets about 3 MPG better than the gasser.
So the break even with that advantage and using $3.00 diesel (Diesel is cheaper than 87 octane where I live...$2.39 is what I paid this weekend...I know it's higher is other areas of the country).
My rough math estimate puts the break even at around 125-135,000 miles for the PSD upgrade.
This doesn't take into consideration any repairs (you get a much longer warranty with the PSD) or the cost of maintenance. What you do get is higher capacity, easier towing, less work or shifting for the transmission and other benefits that are maybe more subjective.
If you are going to lease it for 3 years and trade it in and you are not towing to capacity then the gasser might be better for many people. If you are owning for the long haul and towing heavier loads then maybe the oil burner is the way to go.
The fact that a diesel with 40k, 80k or even 120k miles is worth considerably more than a gasser is a factor I consider. Really makes it very close to a wash money wise even counting DEF, higher $$$ oil changes, etc. and you get the advantages of the diesel.
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