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I'm trying to locate the male counterpart for these connectors. I've found the female side for one of them... but having zero luck locating the male (pin) side for any of them.
I've been to many sites and catalogs... am I missing a source for these?
The top pic (rear chassis location) looks light the wiring for the rear lights.
The bottom pic (inside cab at firewall) looks like it could be the plug for the optional trailer lights/brakes. Maybe...
The top pic (rear chassis location) looks light the wiring for the rear lights.
The bottom pic (inside cab at firewall) looks like it could be the plug for the optional trailer lights/brakes. Maybe...
I was thinking rear lights also but....
As for trailer brake controller wire when did ford start putting them in trucks?
I ask because I don't see one on my 81's and I bought a 86 GM with trailer package and it did not have the connection but did have wiresrun to the rear.
Also the controller did not have a connector, hard wired to truck.
Dave - - - -
According to the EVTM Trailer Option - ???Gary's Garagemahal
the brake controller is inside the cab, attached to brake pedal, and many of the connectors are located nearby. I haven't seen one personally.
... thx for the replies, gents... yes, rear of truck, wiring for trailer lights and brake controller.
My truck actually came with the brake controller harness already installed... (1986 trailer option) and a "splitter" at the rear for accessing the taillight circuit for trailer hookup. Lucky me. But of coarse there's no way to access the circuit without the proper connectors... at least the wire is run!
I have seen the Motorcraft pigtail catalog... (thx, Mike) but you'll notice that all the connectors in the there are female... no males... not clear on the intention of this catalog... but the mates must exist somewhere!
Thought I'd check with 'y'all before I snip these off and put more current connectors in place.
I thought about scavenging some old harnesses that have the male counterparts... but oddly, the only male I can find as reference is the short lead on a DSII !
There is no harm in cutting the connector off and replacing with a different connector style (you could walk through a JY and cut out whatever connectors you want for a few dollars). I bought a couple of 12ga two-wire weatherproof connectors off Amazon for my electric fuel pump install that were a good quality - or you could remove the connector and hardwire it. Just be sure to do it right so it lasts. Use solder and heat shrink tubing or crimp connectors with heat shrink tube.
I have some Delphi Weather Pack connectors picked out for this transition... good quality sealed connectors... I think I'd like to keep the flexibility of using connectors rather than hard wire... but it would be a bonus to be able to use the existing plugs!
Dave... I got all my towing setup from etrailer (hitch, ball, etc, etc)... good outfit... and they had also said that those connectors are most likely out of circulation... but always worth a try to checkin with FTE knowledgebase!
I have some Delphi Weather Pack connectors picked out for this transition... good quality sealed connectors... I think I'd like to keep the flexibility of using connectors rather than hard wire... but it would be a bonus to be able to use the existing plugs!
Dave... I got all my towing setup from etrailer (hitch, ball, etc, etc)... good outfit... and they had also said that those connectors are most likely out of circulation... but always worth a try to checkin with FTE knowledgebase!
If they are no longer around then you got to do what you got to do right?
I don't see anything wrong with hard wiring the controller. I did in my first new truck because back then it did not come with one so hard wire it was.
It still worked when I sold the truck and it went with it.
My next new truck did come with the plug in the glove box with the 7 pin to 4 pin converter for out back.
If you do want a pull apart connector I think weather pack ones are a little over the top for inside the cab.
Now my 81 F100 I am building has nothing so a controller will be hard wired and I will have to run wires down the frame rail to the rear just like we did back in the old days.
Dave ----
I'm trying to locate the male counterpart for these connectors. I've found the female side for one of them... but having zero luck locating the male (pin) side for any of them.
I've been to many sites and catalogs... am I missing a source for these?
The 3 Pin looks like a DURASPARK Conn- (2nd look locating tabs in different position)
NAPA ECHLIN EC72
The 2nd photo connector should be found in the MOTORCRAFT PIGTAIL CATALOG.
Years ago... ...before pigtail connectors became popular (most only released in TSB), the bare connectors were available and you had to re-pin them. Do you see any Casting I.D. Nos on the connectors themselves?
Also, if one had the correct year ELECTRICAL SCHEMATIC BOOK for the application, it would usually give you PN"s for the connectors.
It seems the female is available, but the male side is not.
The plug(s) he is holding are male. It has been quite a while for me but I can't be tricked that easily...
Does anyone have the PN/source for the female connectors - DSII?
Like I said, a year correct Electrical Schematic Manual will most likely give the correct service part numbers or search for the casting ID nos if you don't have short eyeballs.
I was calling the connector with the "male spade" terminals the "male end".
But you are correct as that connector shown "plus into" (goes inside) the other connector.
So it is the male (or more politically correct) the "external connector". And the one the OP can't find is the "internal connector".
...before pigtail connectors became popular (most only released in TSB), the bare connectors were available and you had to re-pin them. Do you see any Casting I.D. Nos on the connectors themselves?