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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 09:26 PM
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EPAS failure looming

Upon start up this morning for the commute to work several alerts popped up, service advance track and hill descent as well as turn signals only work if held down. Google search the symptoms takes about a mili second to reveal a plethora of guys with the exact symptoms and the cause a bad EPAS and the fix a $1,600-$2,000 out of warranty repair. Drove it all the way to work with no power steering (10 miles ) luckily it's Phoenix and the roads are pretty much straight either e-w or n-s. Believe me it was a beast to turn could easily see an accident going down with this happening while in the middle of driving heaven forbid while your turning. Went out at lunch time and started the truck and just as I had read through my online searching she had reset herself and all is well for now but this thing is going no doubt. One would quickly assume the larger tires surely is what did it but if you research you'll find plenty of guys with no modifications that had exact problem, one guy three times at 12k,38k and 42k miles also the truck has always had a slight clunk in steering wheel at intermittent times since my ownership at about 17k miles honestly I kept putting it off getting in into a dealer and the 3/36 came and went oh well my bad. Now I'm considering trading this truck in before it fails for good as I don't plan on keeping it long term anyway. Funny I was just boasting about flawless performance in a couple of other threads
 
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Old Jul 18, 2017 | 05:37 AM
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I'm sorry to read of this, it's going to hurt someone's wallet for sure.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2017 | 04:14 PM
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That sucks! One thing I'm lucky I'll never have to deal with. Thats the only thing that is somewhat scary about the new trucks.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2017 | 07:01 PM
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How many miles do you have? That would sideline my truck for a while, for sure.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2017 | 09:16 PM
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Just under 55k miles. Seems this is a huge issue across Fords lineup however they choose to ignore it in F150s sans a few '14s that were recalled. It's been "normal" since starting it at lunch yesterday. I'm always looking at newer trucks anyway and I know that ultimately just keeping mine and repairing it when it fails is still cheaper long term than buying a newer one. Everyone always likes to talk about the reliability of the ecoboost and 5.0 engines but if you bother to research you'll find that the EPAS is what you should be looking out for.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2017 | 09:25 PM
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I suspect the remans will be improved................once they figure out what fails in them.........But like Russ, I dont have EPAS......
 
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Old Jul 18, 2017 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AlaskanEx
That sucks! One thing I'm lucky I'll never have to deal with. Thats the only thing that is somewhat scary about the new trucks.
...LOL...Yeah. until you and I buy newer trucks......................

 
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Old Jul 18, 2017 | 10:15 PM
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This alone would be more than I spent on repairs on my '99 F250 in the 8 years I owned it and it had right at 100k miles when I bought it and about 165k when I sold it
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 05:23 AM
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Wife's truck just a week ago got hit. Well the truck that did the deed was actually driving by her truck and lost it front end. A Chevy of course. Ran down the whole side of her truck stopping at her front drivers side wheel.


The impact kill the rack and pinion.


So I wonder, since she will be getting a new rack and pinion if it will be an improved one or will it be something that could fail in the future as well?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by brokenleg
...LOL...Yeah. until you and I buy newer trucks......................

I plan to have this one a long, long time. But if/when I do I plan to go with a gas F-250, which does not use EPAS.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 02:01 PM
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Sorry to hear.

From what I've read the early EPAS units had a lot of issues, but by 13 they had all the bugs worked out. Guess not!

Fordtechmakuloco has a video of a failed one on a 2011. Sounded like a screaming cat from what I recall.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 07:56 PM
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I pretty sure I read someone having a problem with a '15 so who knows the extent of the potential failures. I actually came across the Fordtechmakuloco video several years back when I first recognized something a lil off with the steering wheel and his video actually gave me false comfort that there wasn't any real problem because mine didnt sound like anything, especially not like the truck in that video like I mentioned I kinda brushed it off as normal.I've looked for upgraded EPAS system for these trucks but seems to be nonexistent. Have to do some thinking as I don't wanna pay for this and still get rid of truck soon, if I viewed this truck as a lifetime keeper it'd be a simple thing I'd just wait til it fails and fixit. Ford issued massive recalls for other models just seems they're trying to get out of covering the F150s probably due to the sheer numbers of them out there, that'd be a monster recall and a bit of a black eye for the best selling truck for 40 years
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 11:05 PM
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Makes me wonder how hard it would be to retrofit a hydraulic system off a 6.2 or 09-10. Only thing might be finding a pump to mount to the engine but probably pretty simple with the right connections and a little fab skills.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 05:21 AM
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I'm not sure that i'm in love with my truck enough to put that kind of money in it. Going forward, it's extended warranties for me unless I lease.

Or better yet, just buy and F-250.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 08:23 AM
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In hindsight, I should have got an F250 anyways. I've got the towing capacity to tow my tractor with what I've got, but it's at the limit. It appears these half ton trucks, though they have the capacity, maybe aren't built to be more than weekend warriors moving couches and whatnot.
 
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