1954 F250 Build in Iowa
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Welcome to the forum. What a find, great looking truck. I like that original wood in the bed. It looks quite solid. I believe I would do everything possible to preserve it in the as is a condition. Unless you are building a show truck, that is.
It is nice to be able to load these old trucks and use them as they were intended. That F250 is a nice size, very usable.
It is nice to be able to load these old trucks and use them as they were intended. That F250 is a nice size, very usable.
Ray is right. Your bed wood looks amazingly in good shape! The reason I asked about the bed is that most guys lift off the whole bed, sides, front, boards, crossmembers and sometimes fenders all in one piece.
and the before and after pics of the engine are incredible! Even the valve cover decals are there and legible.
and the before and after pics of the engine are incredible! Even the valve cover decals are there and legible.
Abe - Yeah, I probably did it the hard way but it's done now. And yes, that one valve cover was flipped around by the previous owner. Only the one valve cover had a decal. Was the other one supposed to have one as well?
The bed is off!
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Go to Summit Racings website or your local NAPA or OReillys and ask them to order you a bottle of Lubeguard #30990. Thats their Free-Eze cylinder rust treament. I have not used it myself, but i have heard a lot of good things about it, and folks managed to get tractor engines un stuck with it. Maybe worth a try for $15 a bottle.
First time I have pulled an engine. Glad I had all of the front end completely off!
#18
I'll add my welcome as well. I'm not as helpful on '54 trucks as others on here but I'll share my opinion anyway...
I advocate keeping the truck 6 volt. It worked when new, it works now. Make sure to get a reproduction wiring harness and you are good to go.
I also advocate keeping the truck a Y block, either the original motor or another dressed out with your intake, water pump, etc.
I advocate keeping the truck 6 volt. It worked when new, it works now. Make sure to get a reproduction wiring harness and you are good to go.
I also advocate keeping the truck a Y block, either the original motor or another dressed out with your intake, water pump, etc.
#19
I'll add my welcome as well. I'm not as helpful on '54 trucks as others on here but I'll share my opinion anyway...
I advocate keeping the truck 6 volt. It worked when new, it works now. Make sure to get a reproduction wiring harness and you are good to go.
I also advocate keeping the truck a Y block, either the original motor or another dressed out with your intake, water pump, etc.
I advocate keeping the truck 6 volt. It worked when new, it works now. Make sure to get a reproduction wiring harness and you are good to go.
I also advocate keeping the truck a Y block, either the original motor or another dressed out with your intake, water pump, etc.
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I think your wheels are WM! Hopefully someone else will chime in. I believed the 8 lug is easier to find than the 6 lug that is on my truck though. By the way, you have kicked *** on tearing it apart. Remember to mark all the parts really good. I used Zip lock bags, mark with permanent marker. I have tried to re-use every nut and bolt that I did not have to cut off. I spent a lot of hours at the bench grinder and wire wheel. As far as your engine, you will get a lot of opinions weather to rebuild or not. Let me know when you get to that point and I would be glad to share my experience with you. As you have already found out, FTE guys have no problem giving the best advise. Keep up the good work.
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I'll add my welcome as well. I'm not as helpful on '54 trucks as others on here but I'll share my opinion anyway...
I advocate keeping the truck 6 volt. It worked when new, it works now. Make sure to get a reproduction wiring harness and you are good to go.
I also advocate keeping the truck a Y block, either the original motor or another dressed out with your intake, water pump, etc.
I advocate keeping the truck 6 volt. It worked when new, it works now. Make sure to get a reproduction wiring harness and you are good to go.
I also advocate keeping the truck a Y block, either the original motor or another dressed out with your intake, water pump, etc.
As much as I would like to keep it, the current 239 concerns me due to the availability of parts and cost to rebuild. I've got a quote of almost $3,000 to rebuild it. They said the parts kit is one of the most expensive they have seen. I guess I need to decide how much it is worth putting into the 239 to keep it original. I worry about putting that much money into it, and then having trouble finding other parts to keep it running down the road. I wonder if a 292 Y would be any better long term? I assume that will mount the same and work with the original transmission?
What is the best source to look for a 292?
#25
I got my original looking wiring harness from MidFifty. One slight problem I encountered. My harness was a little bit short. I called MidFifty and they assured me that the harness will fit all 8 cylinder 54's. This was 17 years ago. Just this summer I discovered the problem. Most 54s have a junction block where the wires go to and then to the voltage regulator. I have seen pictures of stock 54s with the just curious block. The stock 55 I have has no junction block. That is how my 54 is. My 54 was built late in the production year. So at some point late in 54 they changed that. If your 54 has no junction block then order a 55 harness.
This is silly, but I worry about me forgetting that it is positive ground when I go to reconnect something. Even sillier, I've also thought about putting a trailer hitch on to pull a small trailer around, which would require 12 volt lights. I'm sure there are other workarounds. There I go making it complicated. I need to get my engine plans figured out before I do too much more.
Thanks for pointing this out!
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Mine definitely has that junction block. I assume your 54 is still 6 volt too? Is that harness long enough for the lights at the back of a long bed?
This is silly, but I worry about me forgetting that it is positive ground when I go to reconnect something. Even sillier, I've also thought about putting a trailer hitch on to pull a small trailer around, which would require 12 volt lights. I'm sure there are other workarounds. There I go making it complicated. I need to get my engine plans figured out before I do too much more.
Thanks for pointing this out!
This is silly, but I worry about me forgetting that it is positive ground when I go to reconnect something. Even sillier, I've also thought about putting a trailer hitch on to pull a small trailer around, which would require 12 volt lights. I'm sure there are other workarounds. There I go making it complicated. I need to get my engine plans figured out before I do too much more.
Thanks for pointing this out!
#27
Well I guess you have two Husker fans friends now. Don't worry, Trucks come first
I think your wheels are WM! Hopefully someone else will chime in. I believed the 8 lug is easier to find than the 6 lug that is on my truck though. By the way, you have kicked *** on tearing it apart. Remember to mark all the parts really good. I used Zip lock bags, mark with permanent marker. I have tried to re-use every nut and bolt that I did not have to cut off. I spent a lot of hours at the bench grinder and wire wheel. As far as your engine, you will get a lot of opinions weather to rebuild or not. Let me know when you get to that point and I would be glad to share my experience with you. As you have already found out, FTE guys have no problem giving the best advise. Keep up the good work.
I think your wheels are WM! Hopefully someone else will chime in. I believed the 8 lug is easier to find than the 6 lug that is on my truck though. By the way, you have kicked *** on tearing it apart. Remember to mark all the parts really good. I used Zip lock bags, mark with permanent marker. I have tried to re-use every nut and bolt that I did not have to cut off. I spent a lot of hours at the bench grinder and wire wheel. As far as your engine, you will get a lot of opinions weather to rebuild or not. Let me know when you get to that point and I would be glad to share my experience with you. As you have already found out, FTE guys have no problem giving the best advise. Keep up the good work.
I had a buddy suggest the ziplock bag trick. I am doing that and writing on piece of card stock what it is and I am sorting them in different totes based on located. I'm getting quite a collection. After dealing with all of the rusted bolts, I don't think I can let myself put a rusted bolt back in when the time comes. I had to break/cut a lot of bolts to get where I am at now. I can certainly appreciate all of the time it took to clean up your bolts after going through that! What are you going to do for replacement bolts for those you had to cut? Will you stick with fine thread zinc? I keep thinking stainless is the way to go, but wow, they are very proud of those!
On the engine, any input would be appreciated. I know the 239 that came out of it will require a rebuild. What's it worth to keep it stock? Will I be disappointed that I rebuilt it in 5-10 years if I can't find a part to keep it running? I don't want to send the frame to get powder coated until I know for sure what to do with the engine, just in case the frame needs modified in any way.
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Yes you will get quite a collection of parts. It's a good feeling when you start to put it back together and the bags and boxes start to disappear. I do have one bag for unknown bolts/nuts. That kind of concerns me I plan to use the standard N&B. I will probably by the kits for the bed and running boards. As you found out, those are the worst for removal. My truck will continued to be shedded the rest of my life time so rust will never be my problem again
Your buddy was "right on" on the cost of the 239 rebuild. I know it is a tough decision but you are the one that will have to live with it. It depends how you will use your truck. These farm trucks were used hard 10-20 years before they sat. The 30-40 years they have been sitting has probably been harder on them.
You have no emotional ties with the truck, I'd say go for it. Just don't throw anything away before you offer it to us FTE'ers LOL
I'll be keeping an eye on your wiring choices. I still have to do that. I'm sending Stu a PM to see if he can enlighten you on your wheels/tires.
Your buddy was "right on" on the cost of the 239 rebuild. I know it is a tough decision but you are the one that will have to live with it. It depends how you will use your truck. These farm trucks were used hard 10-20 years before they sat. The 30-40 years they have been sitting has probably been harder on them.
You have no emotional ties with the truck, I'd say go for it. Just don't throw anything away before you offer it to us FTE'ers LOL
I'll be keeping an eye on your wiring choices. I still have to do that. I'm sending Stu a PM to see if he can enlighten you on your wheels/tires.
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Thanks Dave, and sorry I haven't been following along here. Your wheels are 16" x 6" one piece Ford 7RD 1015B / K-H 31282. In the big picture, I've found no record of any 16" wheel having the widow maker RH-5° rim, only 17" and larger. As long as yours have no rust or other damage they are truly golden. Stu
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