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Old Jul 3, 2017 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BaltoMoJoe
Yes Papa...you're right, upon closer inspection, there is a cooler (A/C condenser) in front of the radiator about the same size as the radiator itself, and that is where the AC lines go
A/C condenser mounts in front of the radiator.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2017 | 10:53 AM
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well it appears after calling quite a few of the local auto repair shops here in Westminster MD. that no one repairs, or knows anyone that repairs radiators anymore
(thanks Bill, for the info on the Econoline radiator)
 
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Old Jul 3, 2017 | 11:06 AM
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Check rockuto.com; they have several for your application, ranging in price from
$103 - $239. I think that I would go with a new one, just to avoid the junk yard hassle.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 06:31 AM
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anybody know what the part number for this radiator would be? I'm looking at new ones and want to be sure I get the right one.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BaltoMoJoe
anybody know what the part number for this radiator would be? I'm looking at new ones and want to be sure I get the right one.
I was hoping that you would hear from Bill. He's the part number authority on the forum.

In the mean time you could take a look on the radiator's top tank or side mounting bracket (if it's the original radiator) for an identification number. It will look a bit like a part number, but isn't.

Post that number, and if we haven't heard from Bill, I'll try to get the part number.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 08:00 PM
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I did PM Bill, but haven't heard back from him, maybe he didn't understand what I was asking, its dark here now, don't know if I can see the numbers very well, I did look once before, but I'll double check where you mentioned
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ozzie H.
I agree. I've seen them leak at the plastic/aluminum interface. The "fix" for that is to throw away the whole thing and start over.
Those can be repaired by most rad shops (if you can find one) and can even replace failed plastic tanks. I've had a few done over the years.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2017 | 03:57 PM
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I pulled my radiator today, there is a piece of metal on the inside of the coils, wedged between a fin and a coils segment, it has the following numbers on it
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2270433
and its marked just like that, is this a radiator part number ???
 
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Old Jul 16, 2017 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BaltoMoJoe
I pulled my radiator today, there is a piece of metal on the inside of the coils, wedged between a fin and a coils segment, it has the following numbers on it
19
2270433
and its marked just like that, is this a radiator part number ???
That's not what I was hoping for. The parts manual says that the "identification number" has a format similar to the Ford's part number. I was hoping that it could be used to confirm the part number obtained from the application listing. If it's not available, and Bill hasn't responded, I'll provide my best guess on the part number from the application listing.

Based on 1979; F-150; 351M; A/C; automatic transmission

The Ford truck parts master catalog says that (via the applications listing) the part number should be

D8TZ 8005-A

The dimensions should be:
core height: 19-3/4"
core width: 26-7/32"
core thickness: 1-61/64"

I'd still feel more comfortable with a confirmation, but that's the best I can do in its absence.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2017 | 08:43 PM
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Thanks Ozzie, I went out just before dark and looked at all 6 sides if the thing, no numbers at all that I can see, it was painted, so maybe its covered and I can't see them, but as far as I caan tell it seems to measure 19 1/2 x 26 1/4 and looks to be about a 2" core, so that about matches up with your dimension you gave me.

I found a radiator shop about 30 miles from me, I'm going to take it to them Monday and see what they think about fixing it, or replace it.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ozzie H.
as the metal has not been made extra thin by using acidic coolant.
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What is this about acidic coolant ?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BaltoMoJoe
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What is this about acidic coolant ?
Manufactured coolants are not all "created equal". Some are more acidic than others by birth. The more acidic ones create a more difficult environment for the vehicle's cooling system components to "live" in. Some metals are more affected by acid than others. Aluminum seems to be quite vulnerable to acidic coolants. Other metals can also be affected. The more acidic coolants can cause erosion of the aluminum (& others) in the form of "pitting" (or thinning) of the surfaces. It is generally considered undesirable to those who like to keep their vehicles for decades. Hence, if you can determine the pH (degree of acidity) of your coolant you can get your vehicle to live longer by avoiding the exposure to the more acid coolants.
My reference was probably made to the erosion of the brass tubes in the radiator after decades of use. When the metal becomes thin, repair of a leak can become futile, in that one leak gets repaired only to be followed soon by another leak. When this happens replacement of the entire radiator (or a "re-coring" job) becomes necessary.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 12:31 PM
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Then is there a way to determine acidity prior to purchase?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 12:49 PM
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Just a couple antifreeze facts worth mentioning...

In 2013, all anti freeze manufacturers agreed to begin adding "bitterness" to deter any animal or child from drinking it. Before 2013, dogs preferred it over sweetwater and it hardened their liver overnight. 180 proof flushing was the only cure for mild doses.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 12:54 PM
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I would think PH / Acid would only come from the tap water it's mixed with? Best way to avoid that is to just purchase full strength and mix with distilled water. What I've always done and my oldest radiators are ticking 20+ years on the same coolant.
 
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