3.5 Ecoboost gen 1 versus Gen 2
#16
#17
Curious that there were a bunch of posts in 2004, then a 12 year gap when the latest round of ecoboost bashing started in late 2016. No posts whatever in 2005 through 2015.
#18
and here is a forum devoted just to the ecoboost....issues are listed by subject and year...including 2017
F150 Ecoboost Problems
F150 Ecoboost Problems
#19
#20
Of course nothing will come out when you are sitting there. Condensate is produced in the drive cycle and consumed in the drive cycle. The weep hole is designed to get that condensate out before it blows out spark.
It is complete fine that you have not come to terms with the reality of the 3.5 ecoboost. I get that you made a large investment and you hope it doesn't happen. But... it will. The point of this thread was to see if the issues were addressed. They were not, so expect the same failures. We are already seeing these failures, so I don't want the ecoboost cheerleaders leading anyone on by saying it is problem free.
It is complete fine that you have not come to terms with the reality of the 3.5 ecoboost. I get that you made a large investment and you hope it doesn't happen. But... it will. The point of this thread was to see if the issues were addressed. They were not, so expect the same failures. We are already seeing these failures, so I don't want the ecoboost cheerleaders leading anyone on by saying it is problem free.
#21
93Cobra,
What year EcoBoost F150 did you own? Did you buy it new? Do you have links to the posts you made during your time of ownership that describe your problems and the steps you took to get them resolved?
As you may have gathered, if you spent any time browsing these forums, this 2015 and up one in particular, there are very few posts about 3.5 EB issues. Even after 3 years of production. Go to the previous generation section just below this and you will find more posts about problems, but not just EB problems. Those trucks are aging and many have over 100K miles, so there will be lots of posts from people trying to fix things. Engines, transmissions, suspensions, etc.
7 model years for the EcoBoost in F150s. It is now the top selling single engine in the line. It has the best trade in value. So maybe you had a bad one. It happens, with everything man made there will be a defect now and then.
You compared the 3.5 EB to the 6.0 PSD. Not even close. The amount of problems and complaints filled the forums, the 6.4 as well. 5.4 3Vs had all kinds of issues as well.
I know that everywhere you post you hope to get people to jump on board with you and start talking about all the problems they've had. You have had very few respond with issues and no one who will stand up with you and back you up.
So, share you personal experience so it can be a topic for discussion or simply go away. I'm asking you to show your hand, so to say.
Not trying to start a fight or even ask that you get banned, as you've not been nasty to anyone. But your arguments just carry any water.
What year EcoBoost F150 did you own? Did you buy it new? Do you have links to the posts you made during your time of ownership that describe your problems and the steps you took to get them resolved?
As you may have gathered, if you spent any time browsing these forums, this 2015 and up one in particular, there are very few posts about 3.5 EB issues. Even after 3 years of production. Go to the previous generation section just below this and you will find more posts about problems, but not just EB problems. Those trucks are aging and many have over 100K miles, so there will be lots of posts from people trying to fix things. Engines, transmissions, suspensions, etc.
7 model years for the EcoBoost in F150s. It is now the top selling single engine in the line. It has the best trade in value. So maybe you had a bad one. It happens, with everything man made there will be a defect now and then.
You compared the 3.5 EB to the 6.0 PSD. Not even close. The amount of problems and complaints filled the forums, the 6.4 as well. 5.4 3Vs had all kinds of issues as well.
I know that everywhere you post you hope to get people to jump on board with you and start talking about all the problems they've had. You have had very few respond with issues and no one who will stand up with you and back you up.
So, share you personal experience so it can be a topic for discussion or simply go away. I'm asking you to show your hand, so to say.
Not trying to start a fight or even ask that you get banned, as you've not been nasty to anyone. But your arguments just carry any water.
#22
For folks talking about MPG's of the Gen 2 and 10-speed.....similar to what you listed, I got a 2017 2 weeks ago. It is a Super Crew, 3.5EB,. 6.5' bed, 3.55's, and 4x4. While I only have 1000 miles on it, the lie-o-meter claims a 19.9 mpg average since I got it. Hand calculating from my very first fill up shows 18.75 mpg....but that was filling up from what the dealership put in there...it showed full when I got it, but I don't know "how full" it really was. With the 36 gallon fuel tank, I have not filled it again since then. Get the big gas tank, it's nice to have more flexibility on where you stop for gas.
#23
My experience was in the gen 1 ecoboost. I had a fleet of work trucks, then had my own as well as a SHO. The work trucks all developed the misfire, so I looked in to that. I realized the root cause was the intercooler condensate buildup and Ford had no idea how to fix. Nothing worked. My truck also began doing it, and I also noticed a drop in mpg. I drilled the weep hole in all of them and things were fine. Next came the cam phaser rattle. I had that fixed with new chains and phasers. The SHO was fine because of its transverse design. However, it began misfiring and I had to drill the weep hole in it too. All is fine now except for a finicky fuel pump control module. That was a recall, but the new part is already failing.
If you follow the web and talk to people, you will find them having these same problems all over again.
If you follow the web and talk to people, you will find them having these same problems all over again.
#24
#25
Yea, its a big deal.
The truck runs way better.
It makes a very pleasant growl when needed.
Feels way quicker.
I only have 2500 miles on the new one.
Lifetime mpg on my '13 was an even 19 mpg.
The new one is at 20.8 and still climbing.
I have been getting between 21.6 and 21.9 on mine so far.
From what I have seen, the city driving mileage is much better.
City mileage was terrible in my '13.
The truck runs way better.
It makes a very pleasant growl when needed.
Feels way quicker.
I only have 2500 miles on the new one.
Lifetime mpg on my '13 was an even 19 mpg.
The new one is at 20.8 and still climbing.
I have been getting between 21.6 and 21.9 on mine so far.
From what I have seen, the city driving mileage is much better.
City mileage was terrible in my '13.
Your 17 is 500 to 700 lbs lighter than your '13 was which makes a big difference on fuel economy- especially city driving. The biggest change in fuel economy was from the '14 to '15 model years when the aluminum body appeared. The '17 only gets about 1 mpg better than the '16 on the hwy. If your city driving is way better than your '13 then it due to the weight savings over the '13 as well as the auto start/stop.
Your '17 is also faster than your '13 because it's so much lighter. The extra 10 hp helps slightly as does the first gear's ratio.
I have had an '11, '13, '16 and now '17, all 3.5 ecoboosts. I don't care for the skip shifting or the auto start/stop and these are actually disabled on my truck by a tune.
My '17 gets about 1 mpg better all the way around than my '16 did. Both were CREW Lariat's with the 3.55. The '17 also gets slightly better fuel economy towing but don't have enough data yet for a good comparison. This is mainly due to the 10 speed
The main reason to get a '17 or '18 as far as I am concerned is the addition of port injection which will take care of the carbon build up that DI engines have.
None of the aluminum bodied F150's ride as smooth empty nor do they handle as well as the steel bodied trucks. They also aren't as stable towing either due to the lighter weight and softer suspension.
The perfect F150 to me would be my steel bodied '13 with the next gen ecoboost and 10 speed.
#26
But the First thread there - Idle drops down when AC is on when coming to a stop. To bad the op there didn't state in his first post that he is using a tuner (he waited until Page 3). Good luck with that. All bets are off after using a tuner. More Like FAKE NEWS in my book.
But I will pursue the other Threads
#28
My experience was in the gen 1 ecoboost. I had a fleet of work trucks, then had my own as well as a SHO. The work trucks all developed the misfire, so I looked in to that. I realized the root cause was the intercooler condensate buildup and Ford had no idea how to fix. Nothing worked. My truck also began doing it, and I also noticed a drop in mpg. I drilled the weep hole in all of them and things were fine. Next came the cam phaser rattle. I had that fixed with new chains and phasers. The SHO was fine because of its transverse design. However, it began misfiring and I had to drill the weep hole in it too. All is fine now except for a finicky fuel pump control module. That was a recall, but the new part is already failing.
If you follow the web and talk to people, you will find them having these same problems all over again.
If you follow the web and talk to people, you will find them having these same problems all over again.