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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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5.4 exhust manifold studs rusting

I ran into a mechanic today who just did his 99 5.4 sd exhust manifold studs. He said they all will do it. He has 130000 on his.
He said the studs rust from the reaction with the aluminum heads.

He said a good mechanic might take about 8 hrs. to do the job. You have to take the inner well panels out and heat just the stud, remove them with a stud remover and insert new ones. He said he took the whole manifold off because he wanted too clean the rust off them and check them out also.

Anyone else been there yet?
 
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I just did mine Took about 5 mins to take the wheel well cover off. Most of my studs came out with the nut very easy. Others the nut came off then I used vise grips..Of course I had to use 12 mm socket instead of 13 they were well rusted.
Has nothing to do with aluminum and everything to do with crap sprayed by the wheel.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 02:27 AM
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5.4 exhust manifold studs rusting

It does have to do with aluminum and steel being two dissimilar metals which causes electrolosis, causing your corrosion. I work with a lot of dissimilar metals and know this. put some nickel anti-sieze on the new ones and you shouldnt have a problem.

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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 05:28 AM
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I just did mine Took about 5 mins to take the wheel well cover off. Most of my studs came out with the nut very easy. Others the nut came off then I used vise grips..Of course I had to use 12 mm socket instead of 13 they were well rusted.
Has nothing to do with aluminum and everything to do with crap sprayed by the wheel.
Did you get your studs at Ford? Or is that something you can get at a good auto parts store?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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Yes go to ford and get new everything..including gaskets.
The rusted part is outside of the aluminum it rusts because of the heat and elements. Metal won't rust because its near or in contact with aluminum. The aluminum might corrode but the aluminum has no effect on the steel. I've been working on motorcycles and outboards for 35 years and don't think I've seen many rusty steel parts ..Buy the way the part that is threaded into the head was real clean like new. Ford uses galvanized studs.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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anti sieze should help for later removal of the studs.

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Yea I agree I slimed mine to death..
 
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 03:22 PM
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Yes go to ford and get new everything..including gaskets.
The rusted part is outside of the aluminum it rusts because of the heat and elements. Metal won't rust because its near or in contact with aluminum. The aluminum might corrode but the aluminum has no effect on the steel. I've been working on motorcycles and outboards for 35 years and don't think I've seen many rusty steel parts ..Buy the way the part that is threaded into the head was real clean like new. Ford uses galvanized studs.
Did you apply heat to the studs first? The mechanic I ran into applied heat to the stud only. It would be easier for me if I didn't have to dig up a torch, although I have a Benez-o-matic torch that uses mapp and oxegyen with a fine tip that maybe I could try. I've always put off buying a set of torches and regret not having them in times like these.

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5.4 exhust manifold studs rusting

No... heating metal sometimes causes it to bind in aluminum. I had a tough one and I tried to heat it to no avail the head just soaked up the heat anyway...I ave a 20 inch 3/8 extension that I used on some of them also the size socket you use or can use is important. I was able to bang a 12mm socket on and turn most of the nuts with the studs..
 
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o.k. sounds good. I'm working on getting into a new 6.0 so I'll hold off a little bit. If I can get into one before xmas I'll pass on the stud job.
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