400M Intake Sealing
My problem is end seal leaks. The front seems to seal, but the back will leak oil after the engine heats up and its shut down. It seeps out past the silicone (McKanica Max Gray). I have attempted to retorque all the fasteners but to no avail.
I've had this intake on two times now. The first time I stripped it back off, the silicone showed no sign of an impression. Its like the manifold hadn't touched it. The instructions stated to wait 10 minutes before assembly, and I also allowed over 12 hours for it to cure.
The second time I started assembly shortly after applying the silicone, and put two beads down the rail. This only served to make it leak for more areas than the first time. The silicone didn't squeeze out like I'm used to seeing. From the looks of the stuff I can see, it'll show no signs that the manifold touched it.
I'm thinking I either have a warped manifold (on the other hand, why wouldn't it seal with the thick layer of silicone?) or bad silicone.
Any thoughts? Can I use a steel valley pan with an aluminum manifold? What is the recommended way I seal this intake at the end seals? I've done a '77 302 and '65 289 with the silicone ends and Fel-Pro Printoseals and they did just fine.
Last edited by Narcoleptic; Sep 4, 2003 at 08:47 PM.
I would pull the manifold off again and save the manifold-to-head gaskets (temporarily). Clean off all the silicone on both ends, then set the manifold back down on the head gaskets and measure the space between the manifold and block at both ends.
After measuring the spaces with the manifold sitting unfastened on the heads, put in the bolts and torque them all to spec, and then measure the end spaces again. Sometimes when you torque down the bolts, the manifold will distort slightly (especially if it has a hidden crack, which would be bad news anyway).
If the space is consistent from front to back and side to side, your measurements will tell you how thick the silicone bead needs to be.
If the space varies from front to back, or from side to side across the back, you may need to have the manifold machined to correct its mating surfaces, and I would also have the manifold pressure tested to make sure it's not cracked.
Before you lay down a bead of silicone, make sure the block and manifold surfaces are immaculately clean. Silicone will not seal to a surface with any trace of oil residue on it. I always clean the parts I'm sealing with naphtha first to remove the gross contaminants, then go over them again with acetone to make sure they are absolutely clean.
Normally, you can use a valley pan gasket with an aluminum manifold, but if the manifold has been machined at some point, you may need the slight extra thickness and compliance of the separate gaskets to get it to seal.




