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The looseness is due to a lack of caster that results from the level. You will probably also notice that the steering wheel does not return solidly to center after a turn on its own. There's two easy solutions. Get the adjustable caster bushings and have them set the angle to 3.6 - 3.9 degrees. That will restore the firm steering that came from the factory. Re-centering the steering wheel is super easy and I'm surprised they let the truck go without taking care of that for you. You should just ask them to do it after installing the caster bushings. Remember that an alignment is only as good as the tech doing the work and the fact that they did not center your steering wheel is an indication of poor quality work. You would do well to check around for a shop that really knows what they're doing. Much better results that way.
It's good you're getting this taken care of right away. Some guys will needlessly suffer with poor steering performance for the life of the truck. If you get these fixed quickly you'll be back to full enjoyment of the truck.
It's good you're getting this taken care of right away. Some guys will needlessly suffer with poor steering performance for the life of the truck. If you get these fixed quickly you'll be back to full enjoyment of the truck.
#47
So I'm having 2 issues since leveling the truck. Truck was delivered from dealership with the BDS leveling kit I supplied along with new Fox shocks, tires and wheels. They did an alignment but the steering wheel is not centered and the steering feels "loose". Not what I remember during a test drive before I ordered the truck. So is there something that the dealership should have possibly done differently. They are over 1 hr 30 min away so I'm trying to avoid going all the way back if I can get it fixed close to me.
#48
#49
The looseness is due to a lack of caster that results from the level. You will probably also notice that the steering wheel does not return solidly to center after a turn on its own. There's two easy solutions. Get the adjustable caster bushings and have them set the angle to 3.6 - 3.9 degrees. That will restore the firm steering that came from the factory. Re-centering the steering wheel is super easy and I'm surprised they let the truck go without taking care of that for you. You should just ask them to do it after installing the caster bushings. Remember that an alignment is only as good as the tech doing the work and the fact that they did not center your steering wheel is an indication of poor quality work. You would do well to check around for a shop that really knows what they're doing. Much better results that way.
It's good you're getting this taken care of right away. Some guys will needlessly suffer with poor steering performance for the life of the truck. If you get these fixed quickly you'll be back to full enjoyment of the truck.
It's good you're getting this taken care of right away. Some guys will needlessly suffer with poor steering performance for the life of the truck. If you get these fixed quickly you'll be back to full enjoyment of the truck.
I didn't have time to turn around and go back to the dealership after I noticed on the way home. And since they are over an 1hr 30 min away I really don't feel like taking the trip back.
Here's the alignment report I got when I picked it up.
#50
That alignment is a joke, Hope they didn't charge you for it. I'll bet the caster is in the red. I'd have them take a reading before the Caster shim's are installed so you know what to Install 2.75 deg Positive is the largest I've seen available so far. Factory shims only reach 1 Deg Pos. Good luck
#52
I really appreciate the help.
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https://www.amazon.com/Moog-K80154-Caster-Adjusting-Bushing/dp/B00180J7IC/ref=au_as_r?_encoding=UTF8&Make=Ford%7C54&Model=F-350%20Super%20Duty%7C670&Year=2017%7C2017&ie=UTF8&n=15684181&s=automotive&vehicleId=5&vehicleType=automotive
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#55
BGMSPD
Where are you located in NJ and I'll make a call to the nearest shop for you. I Owned 3 Large Front end Spring shops for 27 years and we are all (Eastern shop Owners)still in touch. If your close to Balt I still have my old partner there and he will get it right for you Ronnie @ Peters Spring & Front end shop.
https://www.yellowpages.com/baltimor...gnment-1029458
Also Mercer is the place if it's close they will hook you up
Truck Equipment, Parts, & Accessories Retail - Trenton, New Jersey - Mercer Spring
I'm in Mclean Va. 6 miles south west of DC so thats little far.
If you call just refer to Skip Paris from VA. Spring & Alignment or Martin & Boyd Spring or Thurston Spring Spring or Roanoke spring works. Sorry I shut everything down 10 years ago To GD Old for that anymore. Any help I can do PM
Where are you located in NJ and I'll make a call to the nearest shop for you. I Owned 3 Large Front end Spring shops for 27 years and we are all (Eastern shop Owners)still in touch. If your close to Balt I still have my old partner there and he will get it right for you Ronnie @ Peters Spring & Front end shop.
https://www.yellowpages.com/baltimor...gnment-1029458
Also Mercer is the place if it's close they will hook you up
Truck Equipment, Parts, & Accessories Retail - Trenton, New Jersey - Mercer Spring
I'm in Mclean Va. 6 miles south west of DC so thats little far.
If you call just refer to Skip Paris from VA. Spring & Alignment or Martin & Boyd Spring or Thurston Spring Spring or Roanoke spring works. Sorry I shut everything down 10 years ago To GD Old for that anymore. Any help I can do PM
#56
BGMSPD
Where are you located in NJ and I'll make a call to the nearest shop for you. I Owned 3 Large Front end Spring shops for 27 years and we are all (Eastern shop Owners)still in touch. If your close to Balt I still have my old partner there and he will get it right for you Ronnie @ Peters Spring & Front end shop.
https://www.yellowpages.com/baltimor...gnment-1029458
Also Mercer is the place if it's close they will hook you up
Truck Equipment, Parts, & Accessories Retail - Trenton, New Jersey - Mercer Spring
I'm in Mclean Va. 6 moles south west of DC so thats little far.
If you call just refer to Skip Paris from VA. Spring & Alignment or Martin & Boyd Spring or Thurston Spring Spring or Roanoke spring works. Sorry I shut everything down 10 years ago To GD Old for that anymore. Any help I can do PM
Where are you located in NJ and I'll make a call to the nearest shop for you. I Owned 3 Large Front end Spring shops for 27 years and we are all (Eastern shop Owners)still in touch. If your close to Balt I still have my old partner there and he will get it right for you Ronnie @ Peters Spring & Front end shop.
https://www.yellowpages.com/baltimor...gnment-1029458
Also Mercer is the place if it's close they will hook you up
Truck Equipment, Parts, & Accessories Retail - Trenton, New Jersey - Mercer Spring
I'm in Mclean Va. 6 moles south west of DC so thats little far.
If you call just refer to Skip Paris from VA. Spring & Alignment or Martin & Boyd Spring or Thurston Spring Spring or Roanoke spring works. Sorry I shut everything down 10 years ago To GD Old for that anymore. Any help I can do PM
#57
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I leveled for both reasons. First I do prefer the look but the more practical reason is that we like to go to the desert and the mountains and explore some pretty remote locations. Think sand washes, creeks, fairly serious rocks, etc. We take the side-by-sides for the extreme stuff but sometimes you just want to go cruising off in some direction with the AC on.
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#60
I leveled for both reasons. First I do prefer the look but the more practical reason is that we like to go to the desert and the mountains and explore some pretty remote locations. Think sand washes, creeks, fairly serious rocks, etc. We take the side-by-sides for the extreme stuff but sometimes you just want to go cruising off in some direction with the AC on.