Invoice price?!?!?
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Invoice price?!?!?
is it fair to assume I should expect to get 10-12% off MSRP , in Kansas City area?
anyone around KC getting like $1000.00 below invoice?
I mi just want to be ready when I sit down and talk with these guys , I don't want to say something stupid low but I also don't want to leave a bunch on the table.
thanks
anyone around KC getting like $1000.00 below invoice?
I mi just want to be ready when I sit down and talk with these guys , I don't want to say something stupid low but I also don't want to leave a bunch on the table.
thanks
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I don't think it's unreasonable particularly if you're ordering. I paid invoice plus pocketed the incentives at the time on an ordered truck $1750. I didn't haggle over dealer hold backs as they have to keep the lights on and operate the business.
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Will a dealer tell me the " invoice" #?
More do I have to find that on my own ?
I tried true car but it was showing only about 5% off MSRP.
how can I see invoice #'s to see if it's a good deal or not?
Thanks!
More do I have to find that on my own ?
I tried true car but it was showing only about 5% off MSRP.
how can I see invoice #'s to see if it's a good deal or not?
Thanks!
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Where to get it?
Will a dealer tell me the " invoice" #?
More do I have to find that on my own ?
I tried true car but it was showing only about 5% off MSRP.
how can I see invoice #'s to see if it's a good deal or not?
Thanks!
More do I have to find that on my own ?
I tried true car but it was showing only about 5% off MSRP.
how can I see invoice #'s to see if it's a good deal or not?
Thanks!
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I sold cars back in the late 80's and it was a standing joke when they told customers it was a hundred bucks under invoice. They will show the MSRP and make up some numbers to make you think you're getting a great deal but the real cost is only known by a chosen few. Of course maybe in the last 30 yrs or so their conscience got the best of them and they decided to tell the truth!!
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I would have to say it all depends on the dealer. I know the general manager where I ordered from.
I sat with a salesman and went through the entire order and then he provided me a printout of the MSRP. He then walked away and came back with another printout that had the invoice and MSRP on it. The manager I know then came over and said how about this #, which wound up being under invoice.
Minus the above, if I asked for the invoice price and they wouldn't provide it I might feel slighted. I'd probably find another dealer who wants my business. My understanding is a straight order is easy on a dealership, and someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
I sat with a salesman and went through the entire order and then he provided me a printout of the MSRP. He then walked away and came back with another printout that had the invoice and MSRP on it. The manager I know then came over and said how about this #, which wound up being under invoice.
Minus the above, if I asked for the invoice price and they wouldn't provide it I might feel slighted. I'd probably find another dealer who wants my business. My understanding is a straight order is easy on a dealership, and someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Use Edmunds as a pricing guideline. They give you msrp and invoice pricing on truck and options. Several other sites do the exact same.
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Do you really think a dealer going to show or what they're making on a vehicle?? Only the Shadow knows for sure!!! I sold cars back in the late 80's and it was a standing joke when they told customers it was a hundred bucks under invoice. They will show the MSRP and make up some numbers to make you think you're getting a great deal but the real cost is only known by a chosen few. Of course maybe in the last 30 yrs or so their conscience got the best of them and they decided to tell the truth!!
I sold cars back in the late 80's and it was a standing joke when they told customers it was a hundred bucks under invoice. They will show the MSRP and make up some numbers to make you think you're getting a great deal but the real cost is only known by a chosen few. Of course maybe in the last 30 yrs or so their conscience got the best of them and they decided to tell the truth!! 
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Before I ordered my truck I went to a fleet sales guy and we put a truck together and he gave me a printout that showed MSRP pricing and Invoice pricing. I then went and built the truck online using the Ford site and asked for the same printout.
You can also find sites on the internet where you can configure a truck and get the same information. I then emailed every somewhat local dealer and ask how much over/under invoice for the truck I built on the Ford site.
Then picks what works best for you out of the responses and go order your truck. I ended up with a little over 10% under invoice including rebates.
My truck is on its way from the rail yard for delivery next week. The only bad thing I have noticed from ordering is that you have even more time to look over your vehicle/trim decisions while you wait. I was convinced I did not want a center console, but now I kind of wish I had ordered it....... But no way I want to wait another few months.
You can also find sites on the internet where you can configure a truck and get the same information. I then emailed every somewhat local dealer and ask how much over/under invoice for the truck I built on the Ford site.
Then picks what works best for you out of the responses and go order your truck. I ended up with a little over 10% under invoice including rebates.
My truck is on its way from the rail yard for delivery next week. The only bad thing I have noticed from ordering is that you have even more time to look over your vehicle/trim decisions while you wait. I was convinced I did not want a center console, but now I kind of wish I had ordered it....... But no way I want to wait another few months.
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Edmunds True Value is about what I am paying under x-plan
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You can get invoice and msrp on costco.com if your a member. You go through the auto program section and build the vehicle. Shows both prices for options as well. And, $1k under invoice before rebates is not unreasonable. I got that deal in .CA.
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MSRP Invoice
Edmunds $61,270 $57,613
Dealership $61,380 $57,837
Close enough for me. Then you need to see how much under invoice you can get the dealer to go. Then find all the rebates you can, I found $2,500 in rebates.
Edmunds was a little funny with picking options for the truck, just keep correcting it.
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is it fair to assume I should expect to get 10-12% off MSRP , in Kansas City area?
anyone around KC getting like $1000.00 below invoice?
I mi just want to be ready when I sit down and talk with these guys , I don't want to say something stupid low but I also don't want to leave a bunch on the table.
thanks
anyone around KC getting like $1000.00 below invoice?
I mi just want to be ready when I sit down and talk with these guys , I don't want to say something stupid low but I also don't want to leave a bunch on the table.
thanks
I ended up at 12% off MSRP with the $1000 rebate from Ford and the ordered brochure rebate of $750. 10-12% is extremely realistic. I was $8,775 off an MSRP of $72,955. Taxes ate that nice little discount up quick!
