91 f250 efi....Smoking starter relay on fenderr
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We tested the power going to the solenoid with the key in the "on" position. My son used some small tester. There is power going to the solenoid post to the battery, the post going to the starter has no power. We held the screwdriver down and get a "clunk" type noise. There is a clicking sound coming from the solenoid when we bypass it.
oh, the starter could be damaged internally? okay. We were hitting the starter with a hammer while bypassing the solenoid...this led my son to believe the starter is good because he heard something and he believes it is the solenoid that got fried due to a short? Do you recommend a Ford starter or aftermarket Remanufactured ones are okay? Checking on price for a Ford solenoid. And have the starter to test now.
Tried a second solenoid, the third total, get smoke from the post going to the battery.
oh, the starter could be damaged internally? okay. We were hitting the starter with a hammer while bypassing the solenoid...this led my son to believe the starter is good because he heard something and he believes it is the solenoid that got fried due to a short? Do you recommend a Ford starter or aftermarket Remanufactured ones are okay? Checking on price for a Ford solenoid. And have the starter to test now.
Tried a second solenoid, the third total, get smoke from the post going to the battery.
One of them means you connected the post that goes to the battery to the post that goes to the starter? Got a big spark? Held it long enough for the starter to run if was going to?
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We tested the power going to the solenoid with the key in the "on" position. My son used some small tester. There is power going to the solenoid post to the battery, the post going to the starter has no power. We held the screwdriver down and get a "clunk" type noise. There is a clicking sound coming from the solenoid when we bypass it.
oh, the starter could be damaged internally? okay. We were hitting the starter with a hammer while bypassing the solenoid...this led my son to believe the starter is good because he heard something and he believes it is the solenoid that got fried due to a short?
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Tried a second solenoid, the third total, get smoke from the post going to the battery.
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Tried a second solenoid, the third total, get smoke from the post going to the battery.
Check to see if your engine rotates freely before proceeding any further and doing more damage to the electrical system components.
#20
When you get the starter off you should be able to prove to yourself that engine is not locked up. Reach up in the hole and move the ring gear the same way the starter turns it. If you can move the gear then engine is not locked. The ring gear turns the engine. It will take a prybar or a big sturdy screwdriver.
Unhook your battery before you remove the starter.
Replacement starters and solenoids are both suspect. Test them before you install them.
Unhook your battery before you remove the starter.
Replacement starters and solenoids are both suspect. Test them before you install them.
#25
#26
When you get the starter off you should be able to prove to yourself that engine is not locked up. Reach up in the hole and move the ring gear the same way the starter turns it. If you can move the gear then engine is not locked. The ring gear turns the engine. It will take a prybar or a big sturdy screwdriver.
Unhook your battery before you remove the starter.
Replacement starters and solenoids are both suspect. Test them before you install them.
Unhook your battery before you remove the starter.
Replacement starters and solenoids are both suspect. Test them before you install them.
Is voltage getting to the starter when the solenoid clicks?
#27
Woo Hoo..she is RUNNING!!!! Not sure exactly what finally did it. for the hell of it I got another solenoid (fourth solenoid...the cheapest at Advanced) and She STARTED!!! Woo Hoo..
We tested the starter before installing it. Right now she has a new starter and solenoid, the connections have been cleaned, made sure cables and wires tight, engine turns my hand. We are perplexed why she started with this solenoid and not the others. My son did find a bare wire he replaced, but this was nowhere near the solenoid. It was in a cluster of wires coming out of the firewall on the other side of the steering wheel/driver side. No idea if it had anything to do with starting issue. As of now, I have a starter and solenoid on order from Ford.
Thank you ALL for your help!!!
We tested the starter before installing it. Right now she has a new starter and solenoid, the connections have been cleaned, made sure cables and wires tight, engine turns my hand. We are perplexed why she started with this solenoid and not the others. My son did find a bare wire he replaced, but this was nowhere near the solenoid. It was in a cluster of wires coming out of the firewall on the other side of the steering wheel/driver side. No idea if it had anything to do with starting issue. As of now, I have a starter and solenoid on order from Ford.
Thank you ALL for your help!!!
#28
The bad starter was probably drawing so much current that it welded the contacts in your solenoids. Replacement solenoids are cheap and crappy anyway so they are easy to kill.
Checking the water and charging up the battery overnight would be a nice thing to do for your truck after all of this.
Checking the water and charging up the battery overnight would be a nice thing to do for your truck after all of this.
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