Questions for 6.2 Owners
#46
04-18-2017, 12:54 PM
Hotshot
#47
04-18-2017, 02:35 PM
#48
04-18-2017, 08:22 PM
On the same note, when the truck goes up for sale the diesel will be worth more money so that will cut into those 50k miles.
I dealt with this dilemma for a long time when looking to purchase my 17. I went diesel just for the extra fuel economy for some long hauls i do every year. I figured the fuel savings on those trips alone will pay the extra service costs and eat up the extra for the diesel purchase....i'm hoping anyways!
I dealt with this dilemma for a long time when looking to purchase my 17. I went diesel just for the extra fuel economy for some long hauls i do every year. I figured the fuel savings on those trips alone will pay the extra service costs and eat up the extra for the diesel purchase....i'm hoping anyways!
If you're hauling heavy enough, often enough, over a long enough distance, the diesel makes sense. I'm not. My gooseneck horse trailer loaded with 2 horses and all the gear, feed, water, etc., tips the scales at just under 9,000 lbs.
Besides, mileage isn't all that bad. I'm very, very happy with what I was able to get today!
#49
04-18-2017, 09:13 PM
You all have been great, I didn't expect to get this much feedback. I have enjoyed reading through all of your responses! I am going back to this dealer Friday to give the truck a once over and another drive before making a final decision. The truck is "new" with 0 owners however has just a hair under 4000 miles on it, which is giving me leverage on price negotiation and sounds like a deal will be made bringing the price from 41K to under 40. Which for a new 2017 FX4 Crew cab it doesn't seem like a bad deal! Can't wait until Friday!
#50
04-18-2017, 09:21 PM
Mountain Pass
Where are working and who for? I'm IBEW 429, a tramp also. Currently working Duke system in Indiana.
I average 14-15 with my 2016 6.2 unloaded on the highway. I don't drive hard, avg 2-3 over the speed limit. Towing my TT I get 8, it's apprx 8k lbs loaded up.
For the way I use my truck, with the short trips and only occasional towing, gas was the only option for me. The few Dodge/Rams I have been around, mostly at work, gas or diesel, were troublesome. In their defense, line foremen aren't known for taking care of their pickups, you know how it is. Maybe we'll catch up on a job one day, if we haven't already
I average 14-15 with my 2016 6.2 unloaded on the highway. I don't drive hard, avg 2-3 over the speed limit. Towing my TT I get 8, it's apprx 8k lbs loaded up.
For the way I use my truck, with the short trips and only occasional towing, gas was the only option for me. The few Dodge/Rams I have been around, mostly at work, gas or diesel, were troublesome. In their defense, line foremen aren't known for taking care of their pickups, you know how it is. Maybe we'll catch up on a job one day, if we haven't already
#51
04-18-2017, 09:40 PM
#52
04-19-2017, 03:56 AM
I ran through several scenarios using the average price differential between diesel and gas, maintenance, initial cost, resale value, etc., etc., etc. You'll recoup the price differential between a diesel versus gas between 185,000 and 195,000 miles.
If you're hauling heavy enough, often enough, over a long enough distance, the diesel makes sense. I'm not.
If you're hauling heavy enough, often enough, over a long enough distance, the diesel makes sense. I'm not.
I hope to keep this one longer....but I always say that.
#53
04-24-2017, 06:41 AM
Just wanted to give an update now that I am back from FL.
1953 miles towing my TT total, trip average 7.3.
The first leg leg of the trip I averaged 6.7, the second was obviously much higher. I took a different route on the way back (10 to 95) than on the way (95, 20, 85, 65). I think it was a little less hilly. One tank on the way back I saw a 9.1 average. I also maintained a more strick 65 max policy, whereas on the trip up I was trying to push 67 or 68. It seemed that the trucks sweetspot was 60-65 to not shift down into 3rd on inclines. I have the 3.73s.
However, once I crossed the NC line a front was coming through and the last 180 miles or so I was driving into a strong headwind and mileage again dropped into the mid 6's to maintain 65.
Overall, the truck performed great for me. I set the transmission to tow/haul and let it do what it needed to do to maintain 65. Stability was much improved from my Expedition, but I think before I do any more longer trips I will invest in a ProPride hitch and some Goodyear Endurance (made in the USA) N speed rated trailer tires for more comfortable travel.
1953 miles towing my TT total, trip average 7.3.
The first leg leg of the trip I averaged 6.7, the second was obviously much higher. I took a different route on the way back (10 to 95) than on the way (95, 20, 85, 65). I think it was a little less hilly. One tank on the way back I saw a 9.1 average. I also maintained a more strick 65 max policy, whereas on the trip up I was trying to push 67 or 68. It seemed that the trucks sweetspot was 60-65 to not shift down into 3rd on inclines. I have the 3.73s.
However, once I crossed the NC line a front was coming through and the last 180 miles or so I was driving into a strong headwind and mileage again dropped into the mid 6's to maintain 65.
Overall, the truck performed great for me. I set the transmission to tow/haul and let it do what it needed to do to maintain 65. Stability was much improved from my Expedition, but I think before I do any more longer trips I will invest in a ProPride hitch and some Goodyear Endurance (made in the USA) N speed rated trailer tires for more comfortable travel.
#54
05-28-2017, 11:55 PM
Like old SD better?
I can 100% get 15 mpg at 60-65. Once I go over 70 it's more like 14 when I try. I average 12.5-12.8 for hand calc'd tanks running roughly 50/50 city/hwy.
Towing your trailer with a 6.2 expect 8 and more like 9-10 with 4.30 gears.
I love the 6.2 but I am not in love with the new SD. I liked my last one more for sure. You won't be disappointed with a 6.2 if you understand what it is, and you will have the most reliable HD truck on the market today.(very important to me)
Your question of "substantially better fuel economy", is not a guarantee. If you research it, there a lot of new diesels getting poor mpgs out there, lots of complaints online. You will get better mpg towing with diesel vs. a gasser though, it just may not be as significant as expected.
If you do enough driving that increased mpg's mean enough to you, it would be hard to turn down a Cummins for the same price of a new Ford 6.2
Towing your trailer with a 6.2 expect 8 and more like 9-10 with 4.30 gears.
I love the 6.2 but I am not in love with the new SD. I liked my last one more for sure. You won't be disappointed with a 6.2 if you understand what it is, and you will have the most reliable HD truck on the market today.(very important to me)
Your question of "substantially better fuel economy", is not a guarantee. If you research it, there a lot of new diesels getting poor mpgs out there, lots of complaints online. You will get better mpg towing with diesel vs. a gasser though, it just may not be as significant as expected.
If you do enough driving that increased mpg's mean enough to you, it would be hard to turn down a Cummins for the same price of a new Ford 6.2
#57
05-29-2017, 09:39 AM
#59
05-29-2017, 12:34 PM
#60
05-29-2017, 10:32 PM
I am patiently waiting for my F350 CCLB KR with 6.2. I didn't even consider 3.73 gears. My current "big truck" is a 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 with 5 speed manual and 4.10 gears. When I was ordering it, salesman tried to talk me into taller gears. I went with my gut, and have not regretted it. When it came time to order this one, I didn't even consider anything but 4.30's. If I feel they are too low, I will switch to a slightly larger tire, which I will most likely do when the stockers wear out anyhow. Slightly being the key word.
I happen to live at the bottom of a mountain on the other side from civilization, so I have a decent vertical climb both to and from work. That kills gas mileage with poor gearing. Several cars ago, my wife had a ford fusion, with 4cyl and manual transmission. I forget what the advertised mpg was supposed to be (mid 30's???), but we averaged 21 mpg over 40,000+ miles. Couldn't tell you what the gear ratio was on this car because it was the wife's and a car not a truck, so my interest was very limited, but I do know I have to pull the hill in both directions in 2nd gear wide open.
While this is an extreme example, the fact remains, anytime you are not in the high gears, you are killing gas mileage. This is what 4.30's will get you, more access to 6th gear...
I happen to live at the bottom of a mountain on the other side from civilization, so I have a decent vertical climb both to and from work. That kills gas mileage with poor gearing. Several cars ago, my wife had a ford fusion, with 4cyl and manual transmission. I forget what the advertised mpg was supposed to be (mid 30's???), but we averaged 21 mpg over 40,000+ miles. Couldn't tell you what the gear ratio was on this car because it was the wife's and a car not a truck, so my interest was very limited, but I do know I have to pull the hill in both directions in 2nd gear wide open.
While this is an extreme example, the fact remains, anytime you are not in the high gears, you are killing gas mileage. This is what 4.30's will get you, more access to 6th gear...