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Old 03-26-2017, 12:59 PM
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Does tho have anything to fo with the crush sleeve not set correctly, or not enough gear oil. Seems I'm not at 3.5qts Don't think them teeth marks should be there
 
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Old 03-26-2017, 01:32 PM
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Should of been noisy if it's making those marks? What torq did you use when you redid the seal? Seems it's pretty high if I remember correctly.
 
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I bought this axle from clist a few years back. I cracked it open and put freshy oil in. It wad last year in big bear I when I broke a joint. They removed the yoke to get the broken bolt out. I asked them I they installed new sleeve..etc. They said they "counted the threads"...not much I can do now but hope for best. Can't afford rebuild..plus, they said they removed the cover for some damn reason and replaced fluid...my ****!
 
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Sounds like they took you. Some times we have to go with the flow, it sucks. Counting threads, if I heard that they would of heard a lot more from me.
 
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Old 03-26-2017, 03:25 PM
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Looks toasted mister. Where are you located and what is your ratio???

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Old 03-26-2017, 03:49 PM
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Sounds like they took you. Some times we have to go with the flow, it sucks. Counting threads, if I heard that they would of heard a lot more from me.
I've heard/read of counting threads, so I have them the benefit of the doubt, but looks like that wasn't the case. My intention all along was to have had AAA to the rig back home, but I had a bed full of crap(staying in cabin for the 4 days) plus 4 people with me. It wad a case of hoping for the best since i/we needed my truck up and running.....

Denny...so cal, not far from chet😁, Placentia, ca
 
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The more I think of it, the more I'm believing them that they did in fact remove the cover..there was not 1 spec/chunk of debris within the oil, considering how she looks in there, so it has around 30k on ur with how she looks
 
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You can try cranking down a bit on the pinion nut to get the clearance. If you didn't have LARGE loss of material, you just need to step the pinion out a bit.

I asked your locale and ratio because I have a stock sterling looking at me if I turn my head but your too far away to consider that.

Best wishes.

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Appreciate the offer, Denny.... With minimal to nun debris, think I'll roll with it. Hopefully it don't leave me stranded to far from home or Chets getn a call ..got ur all buttoned up with gasket and just finished doing donuts in the cul de sac. Neighbors probably thinking, I still have 1 screw loose
 
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So, with the carnage I have in the pic, and the truetac thread going on, .. Would i be a good candidate? Found one at summit for 589.00...looks like the same "housing" that's damaged in the pic

https://m.summitracing.com/search/pr...l/ford-10-5-in
 
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The pinion gear is being pulled rearward and causing the marks on the case. I would take it all apart and install new bearings/races/crush sleeve to spec which is usually ~20-25 in/lbs rotating force on new pinion bearings and install new carrier bearings while in there. Good time for a TrueTrac if you're considering it. you may need new gears if the pinion is chewed up.
 
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I'd also say you WILL need a new ring and pinion with that TrueTrac...
 
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Found a thread on using a crush sleeve eliminator(ford 9" works perfect). Also, never did like his my truck towed with 3.73 with my zf6. I'm always in 4th.

So, in meantime, would it be ok to tighten the nut? From what I'm gathering, there's to much for/back movement of the pinion..
 
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Originally Posted by timmyboy76
Found a thread on using a crush sleeve eliminator(ford 9" works perfect). Also, never did like his my truck towed with 3.73 with my zf6. I'm always in 4th.

So, in meantime, would it be ok to tighten the nut? From what I'm gathering, there's to much for/back movement of the pinion..
Hey timmyboy, I live near the 210/15 freeways. Let me know if I can help if you don't make it. I'll PM my number.
 
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Old 03-27-2017, 03:32 AM
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I think that what you're missing here is that the crush sleeve is for setting the pre load on the bearings, not for setting the pinion depth, which in this case looks far too deep. If the pinion can be moved back & forth then it was either never torqued up properly in the first place or something has changed dramatically since. Either way, I would be starting from scratch & checking everything before reusing.
 


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