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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 10:41 AM
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Heater incomplete

Looking for some help with my heater, not that I always need it in SoCal.


Coming out of my fire wall, passenger side, I have two cut hoses, with only 2-4 inches left.
I also have a cable from the dash that looks like the lines might run thru, to open or close?
And under the carb it runs thru too? but I have no reference to what im missing or how it all connects. 1969 F250, 390/c6.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bear13861
1969 F250 390/C6:

Looking for some help with my heater, not that I always need it in SoCal.

Coming out of my fire wall, passenger side, I have two cut hoses, with only 2-4 inches left.

I also have a cable from the dash that looks like the lines might run thru, to open or close?
Located on the right fender inner apron, spliced into the inlet to heater core heater hose is this:

C3UZ-18495-A .. Cable Controlled Heater Water Valve (Motorcraft YG-133) / Available from Ford & auto parts stores.

1963/67 Econoline; 1965/66 F100/1100; 1967/72 F100/750; 1968/72 F100/350 with factory A/C

This valve gets stuck shut or in the partially open/closed positions.

People don't know where to get a replacement, so they remove it, then using a 5/8" I.D. pipe and hose clamps, connect the inlet and outlet heater hoses together.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 11:16 AM
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The fitting on the manifold connects to the control valve and then to the heater core. The output of the heater core, now with cooler coolant, connects to the water pump fitting.

Here's the routing. Note the directions of flow shown with arrows in the image below:

 
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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 12:40 PM
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I was about to post the same thing HIO.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 06:11 PM
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ok time to shop, I think this explains it well.
I want to flush my cooling system also, the projects never end.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 06:20 PM
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Or the heater core was leaking and was bypassed. Living in So Cal you don't need the carburetor heater.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 06:30 PM
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Here is the fitting ya need. I got it from National Parts Depot.. PN is shown in the pic.

It's not in NPD's truck catalog... I had to refer to their Mustang catalog since they too were equipped with the FE but without the de-icing plate.

 
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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear13861
ok time to shop, I think this explains it well.
I want to flush my cooling system also, the projects never end.
When flushing an FE, pull the pipe plugs low on the block basically directly below cylinders 3 and 7. There will still be a couple of quarts in there.

If nothing comes out, poke each hole with a stiff wire and stand clear because a torrent of scale and muck will fly out at ya. Flush thoroughly!
 
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There's also an after market replacement for that valve usually available at the local big box auto parts store. Similar, but not exact. Watch for them to have an incorrect size on one of the nipples. there are a couple of different versions, but still cheaper than the resto part.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
The fitting on the manifold connects to the control valve and then to the heater core. The output of the heater core, now with cooler coolant, connects to the water pump fitting.

Here's the routing. Note the directions of flow shown with arrows in the image below:

Great photo!
I understood you to say you have 2 cables. The photo shows the one where your assumption is correct. On the passenger side cable, it has a round eyelet that connects to the gate valve inline with the heater hose that goes to your heater core (the 2 hoses that are cut short)
If in fact there is another cable under or at the carb, that would be your manual choke cable.

HIO, thanks for the PN on the tree. I need this for **** truck.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2017 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
Here is the fitting ya need. I got it from National Parts Depot.. PN is shown in the pic.

It's not in NPD's truck catalog... I had to refer to their Mustang catalog since they too were equipped with the FE but without the de-icing plate.

I saw one like the original being sold somewhere ( parts place ). Can't remember where though.

Is there a reason why the original has a longer neck beneath the threads?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2017 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 72CC428
I saw one like the original being sold somewhere ( parts place ). Can't remember where though.

Is there a reason why the original has a longer neck beneath the threads?
Yeah prolly. I was ordering other stuff for the LBB so I just threw it in the shopping cart for convenience. It's a 5/8-inch fitting.. prolly Ace Hardware has a similar fitting.

Not sure about the extended neck.. maybe to avoid backflow from the heater core cuz the T-stat is at the same elevation?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 09:35 AM
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After looking it over have the adaptor from the Thermostat housing and the water pump for the hose, they are installed and looped together. I decided to change my plugs and wires this weekend instead
So my question now is can I/or is it not recommended; use a 5/8 M/M connector to the little bit of hose from the fire wall, or should I replace all the way to the core in the cab? and if its best I go in the cab someone tell me its worth it and not a royal PIA.


I think I need about 10' 5/8 ID heater hose, 8 hose clamps, and some beer.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 10:40 AM
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Replace all the heater hoses. Not worth having it fail later. Make sure the beer is cold, that's a priority.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian1971f100
Replace all the heater hoses. Not worth having it fail later. Make sure the beer is cold, that's a priority.
just what I thought, Id hate a foot of old to fail the rest. Core easy to get to, or should I up my 6-pack to a 12?
 
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