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Front spring advice
Can anyone tell me the difference between snow plow prep and heavy service front suspension (67H)? Snow plow prep is $85 and heavy service is $125. Based on selected options I already have extra HD alternator (67D) so I guess it's just a difference in the springs? I tow a fifth wheel camper. I cannot get the camper package because it's not compatible with 20 inch rims. Not sure which front springs package to order.
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Can anyone tell me the difference between snow plow prep and heavy service front suspension (67H)? Snow plow prep is $85 and heavy service is $125. Based on selected options I already have extra HD alternator (67D) so I guess it's just a difference in the springs? I tow a fifth wheel camper. I cannot get the camper package because it's not compatible with 20 inch rims. Not sure which front springs package to order.
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Interesting because this is an F350 order. CC LB SRW. I've already had a dealer build the order in their computer. Heavy service front suspension says "one level higher than the order would call for" and you're saying snow plow prep is the highest. I'll have to investigate further.
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You didn't miss out cuz you can't get the camper package with 20 inch rims. The camper package includes a rear stabilizer bar that tightens the rear end and minimizes side to side roll. However you can buy the bar and mounting parts straight from Ford and install it yourself. I did this on my 2010. Our you could by an aftermarket rear stabilizer bar, like Helwig for example. Right now I'm trying to figure out why the heavy service front suspension is a one level up jump for $125 but I can go straight to snow plow prep for $85. I'll probably just order snow plow prep. But I think I'll try an on line chat and see if I get a logical explanation first lol.
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I do agree but I'm not overly impressed with the 20s more options with the 18s. Just me I think I would have liked the camper package. Fully loaded I've got less than 5000 on the front. These truck are just too high as it is for 5th wheels.
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I agree they sit up high and I'm a little concerned about it. Right now I have a dually which is a little lower than a single. But I really dont need the dually. I like the 20's because they are a better looking wheel in my opinion and second it just seems the 18's are too small for such a large truck. But your right, the 18's with the camper package is the correct way for us.
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I am looking at ordering a F250 CC 6.2L and have been debating whether to get the Plow Prep or not. I have read several posts about the ride difference with the Plow Prep vs Regular suspension and the results are all over the place, some say there isn't any difference and other say the Plow Prep makes the truck extremely harsh riding, so I am still debating.
The local dealers do not have any Plow or camper prep trucks to test for myself, has anyone driven the three variants and what are your thoughts on ride quality?
After reading this post it seems like the Camper Package is the sweet spot for ride and capability between the three options.
-How does the Slide-in camper certification effect GVWR.?
-Are the Auxiliary rear springs just helper springs when loaded or an extra
leaf in the pack?
-Noimports, noted that the rear stabilizer tightens up the rear suspension, I am assuming that it only reduces sway, or does it also make the truck rougher riding empty?
Interestingly only the Heavy Service suspension package has notes stating that it will effect ride quality and vehicle height.
Thank you for any input and guidance.
David
The local dealers do not have any Plow or camper prep trucks to test for myself, has anyone driven the three variants and what are your thoughts on ride quality?
After reading this post it seems like the Camper Package is the sweet spot for ride and capability between the three options.
-How does the Slide-in camper certification effect GVWR.?
-Are the Auxiliary rear springs just helper springs when loaded or an extra
leaf in the pack?
-Noimports, noted that the rear stabilizer tightens up the rear suspension, I am assuming that it only reduces sway, or does it also make the truck rougher riding empty?
Interestingly only the Heavy Service suspension package has notes stating that it will effect ride quality and vehicle height.
Thank you for any input and guidance.
David
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I am looking at ordering a F250 CC 6.2L and have been debating whether to get the Plow Prep or not. I have read several posts about the ride difference with the Plow Prep vs Regular suspension and the results are all over the place, some say there isn't any difference and other say the Plow Prep makes the truck extremely harsh riding, so I am still debating.
The local dealers do not have any Plow or camper prep trucks to test for myself, has anyone driven the three variants and what are your thoughts on ride quality?
After reading this post it seems like the Camper Package is the sweet spot for ride and capability between the three options.
-How does the Slide-in camper certification effect GVWR.?
-Are the Auxiliary rear springs just helper springs when loaded or an extra
leaf in the pack?
-Noimports, noted that the rear stabilizer tightens up the rear suspension, I am assuming that it only reduces sway, or does it also make the truck rougher riding empty?
Interestingly only the Heavy Service suspension package has notes stating that it will effect ride quality and vehicle height.
Thank you for any input and guidance.
David
The local dealers do not have any Plow or camper prep trucks to test for myself, has anyone driven the three variants and what are your thoughts on ride quality?
After reading this post it seems like the Camper Package is the sweet spot for ride and capability between the three options.
-How does the Slide-in camper certification effect GVWR.?
-Are the Auxiliary rear springs just helper springs when loaded or an extra
leaf in the pack?
-Noimports, noted that the rear stabilizer tightens up the rear suspension, I am assuming that it only reduces sway, or does it also make the truck rougher riding empty?
Interestingly only the Heavy Service suspension package has notes stating that it will effect ride quality and vehicle height.
Thank you for any input and guidance.
David
- Slide in camper cert does not affect GVWR. It is just a piece of paper saying the truck is certified for X, Y, Z pounds/ratings. These will change according to your specific options ordered and the rated payload of a specific truck.
- The Aux springs from the camper package are just overload springs. Here is a picture of my rear suspension:
- The rear sway bar only affects sway, and won't have much if any affect on the ride quality.
- I have only driven a CCLB with and without the camper package and could tell no difference between the two as far as ride quality. My truck has the 5200 lb front GAWR.
- The size of the wheels/tires and wheelbase will probably have a much greater effect on ride quality than the specific spring package - I have the 17" wheels with the 245/75 Michelins, and so did the other truck I drove without the camper package, so the comparison between the two was overall pretty equal.
Let me know if you want more info about this, my truck is a uniquely optioned XL model I had to order to get exactly what I wanted.
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Hi David, I have a 250 CCLB FX4 with the 6.2 and the Camper Package, but no snow plow prep. Let me see if I can answer a couple of your questions:
- Slide in camper cert does not affect GVWR. It is just a piece of paper saying the truck is certified for X, Y, Z pounds/ratings. These will change according to your specific options ordered and the rated payload of a specific truck.
- The Aux springs from the camper package are just overload springs. Here is a picture of my rear suspension:
Attachment 171311
- The rear sway bar only affects sway, and won't have much if any affect on the ride quality.
- I have only driven a CCLB with and without the camper package and could tell no difference between the two as far as ride quality. My truck has the 5200 lb front GAWR.
- The size of the wheels/tires and wheelbase will probably have a much greater effect on ride quality than the specific spring package - I have the 17" wheels with the 245/75 Michelins, and so did the other truck I drove without the camper package, so the comparison between the two was overall pretty equal.
Let me know if you want more info about this, my truck is a uniquely optioned XL model I had to order to get exactly what I wanted.
- Slide in camper cert does not affect GVWR. It is just a piece of paper saying the truck is certified for X, Y, Z pounds/ratings. These will change according to your specific options ordered and the rated payload of a specific truck.
- The Aux springs from the camper package are just overload springs. Here is a picture of my rear suspension:
Attachment 171311
- The rear sway bar only affects sway, and won't have much if any affect on the ride quality.
- I have only driven a CCLB with and without the camper package and could tell no difference between the two as far as ride quality. My truck has the 5200 lb front GAWR.
- The size of the wheels/tires and wheelbase will probably have a much greater effect on ride quality than the specific spring package - I have the 17" wheels with the 245/75 Michelins, and so did the other truck I drove without the camper package, so the comparison between the two was overall pretty equal.
Let me know if you want more info about this, my truck is a uniquely optioned XL model I had to order to get exactly what I wanted.
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I am looking at ordering a F250 CC 6.2L and have been debating whether to get the Plow Prep or not. I have read several posts about the ride difference with the Plow Prep vs Regular suspension and the results are all over the place, some say there isn't any difference and other say the Plow Prep makes the truck extremely harsh riding, so I am still debating.
The local dealers do not have any Plow or camper prep trucks to test for myself, has anyone driven the three variants and what are your thoughts on ride quality?
After reading this post it seems like the Camper Package is the sweet spot for ride and capability between the three options.
-How does the Slide-in camper certification effect GVWR.?
-Are the Auxiliary rear springs just helper springs when loaded or an extra
leaf in the pack?
-Noimports, noted that the rear stabilizer tightens up the rear suspension, I am assuming that it only reduces sway, or does it also make the truck rougher riding empty?
Interestingly only the Heavy Service suspension package has notes stating that it will effect ride quality and vehicle height.
Thank you for any input and guidance.
David
The local dealers do not have any Plow or camper prep trucks to test for myself, has anyone driven the three variants and what are your thoughts on ride quality?
After reading this post it seems like the Camper Package is the sweet spot for ride and capability between the three options.
-How does the Slide-in camper certification effect GVWR.?
-Are the Auxiliary rear springs just helper springs when loaded or an extra
leaf in the pack?
-Noimports, noted that the rear stabilizer tightens up the rear suspension, I am assuming that it only reduces sway, or does it also make the truck rougher riding empty?
Interestingly only the Heavy Service suspension package has notes stating that it will effect ride quality and vehicle height.
Thank you for any input and guidance.
David
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Hi David, I have a 250 CCLB FX4 with the 6.2 and the Camper Package, but no snow plow prep. Let me see if I can answer a couple of your questions:
- Slide in camper cert does not affect GVWR. It is just a piece of paper saying the truck is certified for X, Y, Z pounds/ratings. These will change according to your specific options ordered and the rated payload of a specific truck.
- The Aux springs from the camper package are just overload springs. Here is a picture of my rear suspension:
- The rear sway bar only affects sway, and won't have much if any affect on the ride quality.
- I have only driven a CCLB with and without the camper package and could tell no difference between the two as far as ride quality. My truck has the 5200 lb front GAWR.
- The size of the wheels/tires and wheelbase will probably have a much greater effect on ride quality than the specific spring package - I have the 17" wheels with the 245/75 Michelins, and so did the other truck I drove without the camper package, so the comparison between the two was overall pretty equal.
Let me know if you want more info about this, my truck is a uniquely optioned XL model I had to order to get exactly what I wanted.
- Slide in camper cert does not affect GVWR. It is just a piece of paper saying the truck is certified for X, Y, Z pounds/ratings. These will change according to your specific options ordered and the rated payload of a specific truck.
- The Aux springs from the camper package are just overload springs. Here is a picture of my rear suspension:
- The rear sway bar only affects sway, and won't have much if any affect on the ride quality.
- I have only driven a CCLB with and without the camper package and could tell no difference between the two as far as ride quality. My truck has the 5200 lb front GAWR.
- The size of the wheels/tires and wheelbase will probably have a much greater effect on ride quality than the specific spring package - I have the 17" wheels with the 245/75 Michelins, and so did the other truck I drove without the camper package, so the comparison between the two was overall pretty equal.
Let me know if you want more info about this, my truck is a uniquely optioned XL model I had to order to get exactly what I wanted.
The only question I have to get answered yet is if I order the Camper Package will it prevent me from getting the Gooseneck Prep package? If they can't be ordered together I will probably just order the Heavy Service Front Suspension package which also comes with the mid weight front springs.
Thanks again for your reply.
David
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When I say the sway bar tightened up the rear end I was specifically referring to cornering when empty. The sway bar reduces side to side roll and I could tell immediately after installing it. I could absolutely see it being beneficial for a slide in camper or a fifth wheel or any top heavy load. It really had no effect on straight line cruising down the road.
Thanks again,
David