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Ok thanks. I haven't paid any attention to any other information besides what I hear from Ford. Some in the automotive press have been talking about the Ranger coming back since before the previous North American version left! I'll check these out later when I'm at my home computer. Right now I'm on my phone.
The Ridgeline isn't a truck...it's literally a crossover with a bed bolted on.
The next Ranger will look much more trucklike than it is now. I have a feeling that it will follow the same design for the front end that the '17 Super Duty and '18 F150 have.
Not to drag this further off topic, but the Ridgeline is awesome. Lots of folks don't need to pull more than 5,000 lbs, and it has some really slick features. It also gets better fuel economy than just about everything in the segment. Looked at one a few months ago at a Honda dealer while helping my mother-in-law buy a car. The Ridgline would fit my current needs just great.
The Ridgeline isn't a truck...it's literally a crossover with a bed bolted on.
Why's that? Because it lacks a frame? I guess you could say the same about my Transit-350. Its 9,000 lb GVWR, nearly 3,000 lbs of payload, and full floating rear axle would disagree with you. Not all of us wear our trucks as a fashion statement...I don't care one bit what my truck looks like. For me it's all about value, versatility, and capability for its intended use, and by that metric the Ridgeline is a great choice.
Not to drag this further off topic, but the Ridgeline is awesome. Lots of folks don't need to pull more than 5,000 lbs, and it has some really slick features. It also gets better fuel economy than just about everything in the segment. Looked at one a few months ago at a Honda dealer while helping my mother-in-law buy a car. The Ridgline would fit my current needs just great.
Why's that? Because it lacks a frame? I guess you could say the same about my Transit-350. Its 9,000 lb GVWR, nearly 3,000 lbs of payload, and full floating rear axle would disagree with you. Not all of us wear our trucks as a fashion statement...I don't care one bit what my truck looks like. For me it's all about value, versatility, and capability for its intended use, and by that metric the Ridgeline is a great choice.
What I meant was the actual design basis. Isn't it just that, a RAV4 or CRV with a facelift and a pickup box attached? It's also kind of a turnoff that Consumer Reports and Motor Trend were gushing over it so much. To me, even if it's a totally fresh design, it doesn't feel like a truck. It just sort of seems like Honda's interpretation of a truck, meant to fit in with the crossover lineup as a truck alternative.
I have to say, the specs are pretty impressive. It's nice for someone who has been used to cars all their life, but it doesn't fit in with the truck crowd, not even small chassis trucks.
I actually really like where unibodies are going, I respect the fact that they are now nearly as tough as body-on-frame trucks. The Transit really seems to be doing great as a unibody, and frames for light vans haven't really been a great fit for the past couple decades.
Okay, that was it for me going off-topic. Don't worry, I won't go any further!
What I meant was the actual design basis. Isn't it just that, a RAV4 or CRV with a facelift and a pickup box attached? It's also kind of a turnoff that Consumer Reports and Motor Trend were gushing over it so much. To me, even if it's a totally fresh design, it doesn't feel like a truck. It just sort of seems like Honda's interpretation of a truck, meant to fit in with the crossover lineup as a truck alternative.
I have to say, the specs are pretty impressive. It's nice for someone who has been used to cars all their life, but it doesn't fit in with the truck crowd, not even small chassis trucks.
Based off the larger Pilot, which is equivalent to an Explorer or Traverse. Off-topic COMPLETE!
Ah, gotcha, so it's kind of like the Sport Trac. Now that I'm back on track, talking about Ford trucks, I can say this...
Shame on you, Tom, for contributing to an off-topic discussion!
Getting back on topic...
What do you guys think the new Ranger will look like? With such an enormous amount of PR it has generated...well, since it disappeared from American shores...I doubt they would skimp on a fresh redesign. I also bet it will have an Aluminum body, and a redesign would inevitably follow a change to Aluminum.
I would guess it will follow the '18 F Series pattern, with the chrome/stainless double bar across the grille on higher trim levels, and aggressive black grille for possible Sport variation.
Do you think there will be any market left for a work truck equivalent Ranger? A local pizza chain around here is still using the last-gen Rangers for pizza delivery trucks. I guess a Ranger XL would be cheaper than an F150 XL, for anyone needing a nice fleet truck.
the ridgeline also has to deal with a timing belt. I am unfamiliar with the 3.2 Duratorq but I do know the 2.0/2.3 EB engines are all timing chain driven camshafts.
i think the rangers made overseas will be nothing like we are going to get here...those rangers are practically f150s...i hope they will be much smaller and CHEAP...?
This is what I'm hoping for too, I don't think it will happen. I like a mini truck for just going to pick up a couple bags of feed and a couple of bales, I don't want midsize truck. I've had two rangers in the past and liked that size for many tasks including commuting. I've got my full size trucks if I need more capacity.
I saw an article on the new Chevy Colorado ZX2 - a very bad *** mid size truck. I really hope the Ranger has some serious off-road cred. My daughter recently picked up an older Ranger and while I know the new ones will be larger, I think the 2.7L EcoBoost would be a perfect fit for a Ranger or Bronco.
I saw an article on the new Chevy Colorado ZX2 - a very bad *** mid size truck. I really hope the Ranger has some serious off-road cred. My daughter recently picked up an older Ranger and while I know the new ones will be larger, I think the 2.7L EcoBoost would be a perfect fit for a Ranger or Bronco.
I actually like the Chevrolet Colorado/GMC Canyon! I like the size of it, it's not too small that it can't do any real hauling. but not too big that it can't fit in the average parking garage. That's an important consideration where I live, near downtown Pittsburgh. They seem to be very popular in this area because of that versatility.
For the new Ranger, I have a real bad feeling that Ford is going wimp out on this one and go after fuel economy more than power and capability. That will be their way of steering real truck buyers more towards the F-Series; those who really need a truck for hauling and towing, vs. those who simply want a truck as a fashion statement. I hope I'm wrong
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