52 F3 Marmon Herrington
#33
01-19-2017, 08:46 AM
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Owen - To my recall the gallery listed Glenn Huff living in Virginia, or in that general area. I didn't realize the Herb Hobi truck we discussed was like this one. I thought it was the yellow shortened F-5 with the Express bed. I guess there's every possibility Herb's was this same truck. Heck, I've hauled each of mine half way across the country. And the two Montana trucks that went to San Antonio have both now resettled in Southern Illinois. Josh described the path his F-2 took from SD to CO then on to SLC. And his F-3 I had archived to a short time FTE member in Big Timber, MT, before it showed up on the lot in Gallatin Gateway waiting for Josh to rescue it.
A couple of those 11 trucks I mentioned that have been lost to follow-up are the ones we've talked about being in the group bought by your Williston neighbors. One I saw sell on eBay from that area just after I bought my ND truck. How many years have we been talking about that group of trucks? Stu
A couple of those 11 trucks I mentioned that have been lost to follow-up are the ones we've talked about being in the group bought by your Williston neighbors. One I saw sell on eBay from that area just after I bought my ND truck. How many years have we been talking about that group of trucks? Stu
Of the Badlands M-Hs, mine is the only one still in ND. The other F3 and the F1 have gone to the east coast as of last year or so.
#34
01-19-2017, 08:51 AM
The 1946/1947 M-H tonners, and 1948 to early 1953 F-3/F-250 M-Hs are the only Fords to ever use the deeply dished Budd 17" locking side ring wheels. There were two widths listed in the M-H manuals, 17" x 4.33" and 17" x 5.00". All that I've recorded are either the Budd #44820 (4.33" Firestone RH design), most commonly found on Studebaker M15s, and the Budd #59340s (5.00" Goodyear LW design) most commonly found on IHC K-5/L150 models.
Interesting to me all the F-2 M-Hs I've seen were fitted with a different wheel than the ones listed in the manuals. All have Budd #47210s, 16" x 5.5", having the Firestone RHP locking side ring rims. Stu
Edit - Owen - wonder if those ND trucks will resurface. I think some I've lost track of have probably left these shores. Hopefully to collections and not to return from overseas as Kias. Stu
Interesting to me all the F-2 M-Hs I've seen were fitted with a different wheel than the ones listed in the manuals. All have Budd #47210s, 16" x 5.5", having the Firestone RHP locking side ring rims. Stu
Edit - Owen - wonder if those ND trucks will resurface. I think some I've lost track of have probably left these shores. Hopefully to collections and not to return from overseas as Kias. Stu
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I will also add my welcome. Looks like you have a really solid MH without many missing parts so your adventure will hopefully be painless. As Stu mentioned you have the rear spacers...big bonus. Hopefully your front axle drums are good and the axle shafts are not hurt. The short shaft Josh pictured can be purchased new....ask me how I know. Current application is Ford Excursion front joint. It looks different now but has the same dimensions. Be sure and check the frame for cracks. Front to back. My F3 MH lived a pampered life and has a mint frame and cab. My F2 MH had so many cracks and bad repairs that we reframed 75% of it. Is the oil filter towards the center of the block? I could not tell from the picture. If the oil filter is towards the front it was repowered with a 223.
#38
01-19-2017, 11:04 AM
Mark makes great points. I mentioned earlier that both he and Josh would notice your rear spacers. Theirs were missing, I believe one of Josh's trucks is still missing its. Rare to an extreme if needed.
The other point is frame fractures. I mentioned earlier the problem with axles fracturing where the long tube is riveted to the differential housing. Overloading also fractures frames. Chuck once told me that the F-2/3s weren't built much heavier than half tons, but were used like F-5s. He said that more 3/4 tons were produced than half tons, but fewer survive today than half tons because of abuse. Chuck says about 200 half tons per year were converted. My archive of 3/4 tons shows 300-400 per year. Of my five F-3/250s, some now only remaining as parts, three have had frame issues to a greater or lesser degree. Stu
The other point is frame fractures. I mentioned earlier the problem with axles fracturing where the long tube is riveted to the differential housing. Overloading also fractures frames. Chuck once told me that the F-2/3s weren't built much heavier than half tons, but were used like F-5s. He said that more 3/4 tons were produced than half tons, but fewer survive today than half tons because of abuse. Chuck says about 200 half tons per year were converted. My archive of 3/4 tons shows 300-400 per year. Of my five F-3/250s, some now only remaining as parts, three have had frame issues to a greater or lesser degree. Stu
#39
01-19-2017, 06:38 PM
Would something like one of these be useful for your business?
truckdog62563, the number we cant see in the image is;
F3 D2 HM33507
the motor number is 33507 also
I checked a article I read up on and decided to follow that about the voltage issue.. Never fully knowing what a previous owner has or has not done I'll revert to a 6 volt system.. converting to a 12v is a very simple process and if I decide to keep this and build it having a 6v in it is something I'd do anyways.
It started raining here today so I didnt crawl around under the front end to look for the numbers off the HM but another day soaking in cleaner wont hurt it
Edit: the article;
https://www.fillingstation.com/articles/6volt.htm
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01-19-2017, 07:18 PM
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#45
01-26-2017, 12:35 PM
Turtleman, hope I didnt offend you. As most of the guys on here know i'm mostly full of hot air and engage mouth before engaging brain... 
Anyway. We would all love to see more pictures as you progress along with hopefully getting it moving under its own power.
Also as a side note there is a guy named John. John's f100's or johnnys f100s or johnnys junk? Maybe its on facebook? But he is somewhere near Phoenix (queen creek maybe) and seems to always have a few cabover project trucks if your thinking of a cabover project?
Cheers
Josh
Anyway. We would all love to see more pictures as you progress along with hopefully getting it moving under its own power.
Also as a side note there is a guy named John. John's f100's or johnnys f100s or johnnys junk? Maybe its on facebook? But he is somewhere near Phoenix (queen creek maybe) and seems to always have a few cabover project trucks if your thinking of a cabover project?
Cheers
Josh