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this may give you a snapshot of what members of this forum are ordering:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...K_s/edit#gid=0
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From my previous research, with Ford it is about 40-60 gas to diesels.
That is not totally current. Previous Ford diesels were not exactly problem free. But in my area, I see more gas trucks on the road than diesels, and way more gas trucks on dealer lots then diesels.
The 6.7L is a great engine...but so is the 6.2L. A lot of guys simply prefer driving a bigger rig than a half-ton...and a 6.2L fits the bill perfectly.
We have two *massive* GM dealers near my town. I just picked one out of curiosity just now...they have 70 HD pickup trucks, only 4 are diesels.
We have a small RAM dealer in town. They only have one diesel truck in stock, plenty of Hemi's.
That is not totally current. Previous Ford diesels were not exactly problem free. But in my area, I see more gas trucks on the road than diesels, and way more gas trucks on dealer lots then diesels.
The 6.7L is a great engine...but so is the 6.2L. A lot of guys simply prefer driving a bigger rig than a half-ton...and a 6.2L fits the bill perfectly.
We have two *massive* GM dealers near my town. I just picked one out of curiosity just now...they have 70 HD pickup trucks, only 4 are diesels.
We have a small RAM dealer in town. They only have one diesel truck in stock, plenty of Hemi's.
It may also be a regional thing. In Texas, there are significantly more diesels.
For fun, I just checked inventory for the F250 XLT in a 10 mile radius. I'm north of Dallas. Half were gas, half diesel. On a 20 mile radius, it was 36 gas, 63 diesel.
Next, I checked F250 Lariats @ 20 mile radius, 5 gas, 100+ diesels. In F350 Lariats, 0 gas, 51 diesel.
My conclusion, for this area, is that nearly all Lariat buyers get diesel and nearly all F350 buyers get diesel. Probably 2/3 of F250 buyers in the XLT class get diesel, but it is probably a financial decision rather than preference.
When I was more strongly considering the Ram 2500 mega cab, there were 0 gassers on the lot around Dallas. However, there were plenty of diesels to choose from. I asked one dealer about a gas mega cab, he said nobody buys it with the gas motor.
I am in the oil & gas sector, professionally. Every supply store, manufacturer, and client parking lot is filled with diesel 4x4 Fords...XLT's, Lariats, and KR's. XLT's & Lariats are what the employees drive. The KR's and Platinums are driven by management and owners. It's what they drive....all company trucks are $60K vehicles. They go out to oil and gas fields no matter the weather and they frequently have valves in bed or pipe on a heavy trailer. All the boys growing up in these areas want jacked up diesel trucks.
For fun, I just checked inventory for the F250 XLT in a 10 mile radius. I'm north of Dallas. Half were gas, half diesel. On a 20 mile radius, it was 36 gas, 63 diesel.
Next, I checked F250 Lariats @ 20 mile radius, 5 gas, 100+ diesels. In F350 Lariats, 0 gas, 51 diesel.
My conclusion, for this area, is that nearly all Lariat buyers get diesel and nearly all F350 buyers get diesel. Probably 2/3 of F250 buyers in the XLT class get diesel, but it is probably a financial decision rather than preference.
When I was more strongly considering the Ram 2500 mega cab, there were 0 gassers on the lot around Dallas. However, there were plenty of diesels to choose from. I asked one dealer about a gas mega cab, he said nobody buys it with the gas motor.
I am in the oil & gas sector, professionally. Every supply store, manufacturer, and client parking lot is filled with diesel 4x4 Fords...XLT's, Lariats, and KR's. XLT's & Lariats are what the employees drive. The KR's and Platinums are driven by management and owners. It's what they drive....all company trucks are $60K vehicles. They go out to oil and gas fields no matter the weather and they frequently have valves in bed or pipe on a heavy trailer. All the boys growing up in these areas want jacked up diesel trucks.
Yeah, the oil industry seems to love diesels.
In my opinion, for a rig only used for payload purposes (e.g. hauling valves), the gas truck is appropriate and only a fool would buy a diesel. The gas trucks have higher payload to start with, will last at least a couple hundred thousand miles, are much cheaper, much cheaper to maintain, and are about a wash with fuel economy when prices are factored in.
For heavy towing...sure, go diesel. No arguments. For personal use, go with what you can afford.
The trim level thing varies greatly. In my mind, a Lariat can be optioned to provide all the same luxury as a KR or Platinum. KR and Platinum are really just motifs or themes on luxury, with most things standard.
In my opinion, for a rig only used for payload purposes (e.g. hauling valves), the gas truck is appropriate and only a fool would buy a diesel. The gas trucks have higher payload to start with, will last at least a couple hundred thousand miles, are much cheaper, much cheaper to maintain, and are about a wash with fuel economy when prices are factored in.
For heavy towing...sure, go diesel. No arguments. For personal use, go with what you can afford.
The trim level thing varies greatly. In my mind, a Lariat can be optioned to provide all the same luxury as a KR or Platinum. KR and Platinum are really just motifs or themes on luxury, with most things standard.
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Just my little slice of the pie:
Work pick-ups are almost all gassers. I sell a few PSDs to excavation companies and one landscape customer of mine only wants diesels as well, but generally gas is king on the 250-350 RC XL trucks, which is what I sell most of.
XLT trucks to the general public tend to be gassers as well. Frankly the step up from XLT to Lariat isn't too much after you've swallowed the PSD bill so I think that's a factor. Lariats and above are almost all PSD.
Chassis is a mix. 350s generally are gas. 450 is a custom order for me, and 550 are 80% PSD, but a growing number of folks liking the gas option. Ford also has the only gas option in the medium truck field, so that helps with fleets seeking a common fuel.
Again, I don't meant anything by this, but it's the mix I have here that works.
Work pick-ups are almost all gassers. I sell a few PSDs to excavation companies and one landscape customer of mine only wants diesels as well, but generally gas is king on the 250-350 RC XL trucks, which is what I sell most of.
XLT trucks to the general public tend to be gassers as well. Frankly the step up from XLT to Lariat isn't too much after you've swallowed the PSD bill so I think that's a factor. Lariats and above are almost all PSD.
Chassis is a mix. 350s generally are gas. 450 is a custom order for me, and 550 are 80% PSD, but a growing number of folks liking the gas option. Ford also has the only gas option in the medium truck field, so that helps with fleets seeking a common fuel.
Again, I don't meant anything by this, but it's the mix I have here that works.
Just my little slice of the pie:
Work pick-ups are almost all gassers. I sell a few PSDs to excavation companies and one landscape customer of mine only wants diesels as well, but generally gas is king on the 250-350 RC XL trucks, which is what I sell most of.
XLT trucks to the general public tend to be gassers as well. Frankly the step up from XLT to Lariat isn't too much after you've swallowed the PSD bill so I think that's a factor. Lariats and above are almost all PSD.
Chassis is a mix. 350s generally are gas. 450 is a custom order for me, and 550 are 80% PSD, but a growing number of folks liking the gas option. Ford also has the only gas option in the medium truck field, so that helps with fleets seeking a common fuel.
Again, I don't meant anything by this, but it's the mix I have here that works.
Work pick-ups are almost all gassers. I sell a few PSDs to excavation companies and one landscape customer of mine only wants diesels as well, but generally gas is king on the 250-350 RC XL trucks, which is what I sell most of.
XLT trucks to the general public tend to be gassers as well. Frankly the step up from XLT to Lariat isn't too much after you've swallowed the PSD bill so I think that's a factor. Lariats and above are almost all PSD.
Chassis is a mix. 350s generally are gas. 450 is a custom order for me, and 550 are 80% PSD, but a growing number of folks liking the gas option. Ford also has the only gas option in the medium truck field, so that helps with fleets seeking a common fuel.
Again, I don't meant anything by this, but it's the mix I have here that works.
I think that fully supports my idea of it being a regional preference. Your region has a gas preference. It makes sense (even though I'm used to seeing 80%+ diesel).
My area is much the same, at least 80% diesel. Even fleet vehicles here are almost always diesel.
So I did some quick research by using AutoTrader. Granted, not all dealers will advertise their inventory on AutoTrader, but I think it provides a very good preview.
My search criteria:
-Any distance from my zip code
-2017, New, any trim level, any drive type, any cab config
-Searched F-250 gas, then F-250 diesel
-Searched F-350 gas, then F-350 diesel
Results:
8,122 diesel F-250's available
8,123 gas F-250's available
5,874 diesel F-350's available
1,852 gas F-350's available
That means about 50% of 250's are either gas or diesel for new inventory. It also means roughly 25% of 350's are gas, and 75% are diesel, for new inventory.
Not including 450 pickups, or 350, 450, or 550 chassis cabs, the overall mix is 58% diesel and 42% gas. Pretty inline with my original theory.
My search criteria:
-Any distance from my zip code
-2017, New, any trim level, any drive type, any cab config
-Searched F-250 gas, then F-250 diesel
-Searched F-350 gas, then F-350 diesel
Results:
8,122 diesel F-250's available
8,123 gas F-250's available
5,874 diesel F-350's available
1,852 gas F-350's available
That means about 50% of 250's are either gas or diesel for new inventory. It also means roughly 25% of 350's are gas, and 75% are diesel, for new inventory.
Not including 450 pickups, or 350, 450, or 550 chassis cabs, the overall mix is 58% diesel and 42% gas. Pretty inline with my original theory.
Inventory doesn't always indicate what sales are doing. At my local (albeit small) dealership they have two gas and two diesel Super Duties. The Diesel trucks are selling and are replaced. The two gas trucks have been there for months.
I realize that this is just my little neck of the woods, and nationally things are probably different.
I realize that this is just my little neck of the woods, and nationally things are probably different.
Inventory doesn't always indicate what sales are doing. At my local (albeit small) dealership they have two gas and two diesel Super Duties. The Diesel trucks are selling and are replaced. The two gas trucks have been there for months.
I realize that this is just my little neck of the woods, and nationally things are probably different.
I realize that this is just my little neck of the woods, and nationally things are probably different.
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