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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 12:53 PM
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I have a 94 F-150 ext cab 5 speed with 5.0. Im looking to gain alot of horsepower without having to buy a big as$ supercharger. I would like some suggestions on what i should buy.:-X11
 
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 04:04 PM
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About how much horsepower do you want to gain?
I’d say about 55HP with the usual bolt on's, but then you may need to convert to maf.
You will definitely have to convert to maf if you do headwork, and intake, throttle body size change.
How many miles do you have on the engine, if low miles you should just get a supercharger.

 
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 06:21 PM
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I have nearly 200,000 miles. Im bout to re work the heads and intake. I dont want to bolt on a supercharger. I just want to gain round 300 hp. I figure k/n filter system would gain me 26-27 hp and a chip would gain me between 30-50 hp. And new heads would gain is what i dont know and new intake.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 07:48 PM
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That’s allot of hp to gain over what you have.
The baseline for you truck is about 195 and you want about 300 extra.
That’s about 500 hp
With all the stuff you mentioned and every bolt on you can think of, you'll be lucky to get an extra 100 hp
The k&n filter may get you 10 hp and a chip 15-20 if you’re lucky
What the manufacturer says it will make is the max that they could come up with, and is never real world.
New heads depending what you get 25-35 hp about.
I highly suggest you do a mass air conversion if you plan to do any of this stuff.
I’m not sure about the intake, are you thinking about the edelebroc truck intake, because I don’t know what that will give you I’m guessing about 20 hp
With that many miles on your engine, I strongly agree with not getting a supercharger.
If you want that much hp you will have to rebuild it, stroke it, turn the compression up get some nice aftermarket heads I like AFR, intake, some giggle gas, and every other hp item. Than you could be around 500 hp

 
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 09:12 PM
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MadMan you didnt understand what i meant by 300. i want up to 300 hp over all. i just want to bolt on few items to go from 205 to 300. now any few bolt on suggestions
 
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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 01:03 AM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 21-Dec-01 AT 02:37 AM (EST)] sorry, from the way you worded it, that is the way it sounded.
Okay, here is a list of stuff that can get by without having to convert to mass air.

-Cat back exhaust system
-Headers
-K&n air filter
-Throttle body spacer
-Under drive pulleys
-Computer chip
-Msd ignition, and coil
-Electric fan
-If you don’t have emissions you can dump the cats
You should be fine with these items without a MAF.

-You could swap in a cam; an E303 or B303 would be good
-Throttle body
If you plan to do head work and intake work or new intake, it will most likely run bad and you'll get bad gas mileage, the fix is you have to convert to a mass air flow sensor, even just the cam and you should do it.

That’s about all I could think of for right now, if I think of more I’ll post it, and if anyone else wants to add something please do.

 
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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 03:19 AM
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I installed a set of hedders and free flowing dual exhaust and I was in need for a Mass Air Conversion. The rig ran real lean and the gas mileage actually went down. I would tend to say that based on my experience with my own rig that the only upgrades that would help prior to a mass air conversion would be an msd ignition system and a k&N filter.

If you happen to decide to ever do a mass air conversion, do not buy the K&N FIPK kit. When the conversion is done it elimates the dual hoses running from the intake and converts it to one. Hence the dual inlet K&N FIPK will be useless and money thrown away.

By far the best buy for your buck regarding power is to do the Mass Air Kit and then put on a pair of GT40 heads. This is the best mod for the money that can be done to the 5.0 liters.!
 
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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 09:22 AM
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hello texas, i think that i can help you with some of those parts you are looking for. first off, i have the edelbrock upper and lower for the truck fuel injection, along with a BBK 56mm throttle body, a set of march pulleys, msd ignition, the k&n FIPK filter kit, and will soon have a set of bassani headers and an offroad Y-pipe from them if you are interested, along with a FMS 3.73 gear that i am replacing with a 4.10. also have a set of unused lowering hangers for our trucks. if interested, or have questions, just ask, i have done a lot of things to my truck, as you can tell, and am planning on a rebuild with more cubic inches and bigger blower, good luck, make me some offers if you like.



1995 Ford F150
302 w/ Lentech AOD 2500 stall
Vortech S-trim @ 11lbs. boost
Bassani exhaust and headers
Pro-M mass air conversion
4.10 gears and trac-lok
white w/ blue pearl and graphics, 17" rims and nittos
14.02 @ 95 mph, stock bottom end, for now!
 
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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 11:03 AM
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To the guy who has the fast ##### truck, thats a nice truck and i like your input. To madman i like your input as well, and to the other guy thankz alot. I figure im going to rebuild my heads and put on new intake beings though it has almost 200,000 miles, because ive been wanting and needin to do. Im going to add msd ignition and a Jet performace chip. I will also add the k/n FIPK. I just might go with the pulley set. I dont really wanna change the cam unless i have to. But as soon as i get rolling ill start the bolt ons. So guys tell me what you think and where i should get the stuff.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 11:15 AM
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where ya at you guys?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 12:14 PM
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Hello "fordpi2" I read your post about the performance parts and I would be VERY INTERESTED in the Bassani headers and Y-pipe. You didn't leave a E-mail address or phone # or contact info. Contact me at mandjsmith@prodigy.net and give me some prices and a location of parts. I am looking at these upgrades and would like to save some money and buy used.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 03:17 PM
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If you are going to do any mods at all to the air intake or exhaust, for it to actually do anything, you have to get a mass air conversion. Without it, your engine will lose power and gas mileage.

 
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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 04:01 PM
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sorry about nt leaving an email, i thought you could access it through my profile. anyway, east texas cowboy, all the parts i listed are for sale, including the kn and the edelbrock intake, so talk to me about prices, and i am also in texas. as far as doing just rebuilding the heads, i think that is a waste of time, sp. on a 200,000 mile motor, time for a complete rebuild, in my opinion, it would be more beneficial. i did convert my truck o mass air, but that was only because i knew that i wqs going to need it eventually for future mods that i plan, and i am planning on a 351/408 conversion in it, i am looking for some 11's, along with an intercooled supercharger with more boost. the mass air conversion is not an easy task, i did it, and was very tedious. also, the kit set me back $1100. as for a cam, the E303 is a wise choice, you can probably do a stock rebuild with this cam, but i would get an aftermarket set of heads, that bolt on out of the box, can't beat the deals they have. now. well as far as the guy wanting the bassani exhaust, i am currently using it, but do plan on going to a 351, unless i decide to go to a 302/331 motor. but yes it will be for sale, along wuith everything else that i listed above, so feel free to contact me. my email addy is below, good luck everyone.
fordpi@webtv.net



1995 Ford F150
302 w/ Lentech AOD 2500 stall
Vortech S-trim @ 11lbs. boost
Bassani exhaust and headers
Pro-M mass air conversion
4.10 gears and trac-lok
white w/ blue pearl and graphics, 17" rims and nittos
14.02 @ 95 mph, stock bottom end, for now!
 
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Old Dec 22, 2001 | 07:40 AM
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fordpi2,

I noticed that you stated that you have a pro M mass air converstion. Who are they? Do you happen to have the web site to them. The only people that I found who did the converstion kit was ford motorsport.....


 
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Old Dec 22, 2001 | 11:43 AM
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well guys, there are actually three companies that produce mass air kits for trucks, there is ford, the Pro-M which is also known as Best products, then there is interactive systems and technologies, which i do not recommmend. search for Best Products on the net, they have a web site. they all convert you to using a mustang computer. feel free to email with questions, i do not mind helping people. remember, 94, 95, and all 96 f150's came with mass air on the trucks, so you can actually use the kits off of a wrecked truck. main concern is if your truck requires the computer to shift the tranny, unless a 5spd. or n aod that i converted to, or a C4 or a C6.


1995 Ford F150
302 w/ Lentech AOD 2500 stall
Vortech S-trim @ 11lbs. boost
Bassani exhaust and headers
Pro-M mass air conversion
4.10 gears and trac-lok
white w/ blue pearl and graphics, 17" rims and nittos
14.02 @ 95 mph, stock bottom end, for now!
 
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