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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 08:01 PM
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V10 differences between years?

I am considering replacing my v10 engine in my 2000 excursion, either reman or pulled from a used vehicle. Looking at engine websites there seem to be differences between years and if it was in a van, truck, excursion, etc... If I have the entire motor pulled and replaced do I need to make sure it was in a 2000 excursion or will a v10 from different years still work? How specific do I have to get to find a replacement engine?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 12:51 AM
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2000 should have PI or Performance Improved heads, 2002-2004 will have more threads for the spark plugs, not much else is major.

What happened to your original Engine? Rebuildable?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 06:28 AM
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The vans used a different oil pan that will not work in an EX. Other wise like Coop said the EXs should all have the PI heads (better performance from these Performance Improved heads) and during the '03 model year the number of spark plug threads was increased for better reliability there. If buying a rebuilt engine I would be sure it had the newer heads with more plug threads for sure.
Otherwise, I'm pretty sure a Super Duty or Ex V-10 from '00 through '04 ('05 from an EX) will drop in without any issues. There were not any major changes in these engines over the mentioned years.
Either rebuilt or used I would install all new quality (stainless) exhaust manifold stud in the heads while the engine is out of the vehicle.
What happened to the original V-10 and how many miles did it have on it?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 02:27 PM
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In '05 only the v10 in Excursions was the same as prior years.
But, in the superduty/E series vans Ford changed to 3 valves along with the 5r110 transmission used with the 6L.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 05:37 PM
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The vans never got the 3v.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 07:06 PM
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My EX has 204,000 miles on it. It takes a quart of oil every 750 to 1000 miles, several exhaust manifold studs have broken, and it might be using a little coolant.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 07:42 PM
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My EX has 204,000 miles on it. It takes a quart of oil every 750 to 1000 miles, several exhaust manifold studs have broken, and it might be using a little coolant.
I wouldn't replace the whole engine just for that. My '00 Excursion burned about that much oil at 112,000 miles. It's not uncommon for these things to go 300,000+ miles with just minor maintenance. I'd fix the manifold studs if you get an exhaust leak and don't worry about it until something breaks.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 11:20 PM
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I recalled the alternators were different in the 2002 year than previous years. Not sure if the belts/pulley would have an impact? My V10 doesn't have an EGR either on the drivers side exhaust manifold, though some V10s have them.
 
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What weight of oil do you use? I've been using 5w20 Motorcraft Synthetic blend and burn a quart in 2k-3k. In the V10 forum, members reported the same and switching to 5w30 has helped it. Can't help on the coolant part though.
 
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I use 5w20.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2017 | 08:39 PM
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The exhaust manifold studs aren't hard to replace, it just takes time. I did mine a few weeks ago for about $45 and 12 hours of my time. As far as the oil leak, i would determine where it is coming from and then repair it. At least then you will know it won't be a problem. I use quite a bit of oil too, and it took forever to find it because it never dripped where i could see a puddle. The rear main seal is leaking, and it drips on to the exhaust, burning off before it can puddle.
Fixing the problems, in my opinion, is the cheaper/better route to go. It may take a little longer than an engine swap, but it will save you money and you will have a better motor for it. What is to say that your replacement motor won't have the same problems? Then you'd be really mad!
 
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I recalled the alternators were different in the 2002 year than previous years. Not sure if the belts/pulley would have an impact? My V10 doesn't have an EGR either on the drivers side exhaust manifold, though some V10s have them.
Wasn't the EGR only on the california model EX?
 
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Originally Posted by sessland
Wasn't the EGR only on the california model EX?
Nope. Mine was first sold here in CA and it doesn't have one.
 
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Originally Posted by sessland
Wasn't the EGR only on the california model EX?
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Nope. Mine was first sold here in CA and it doesn't have one.
That's odd...I was under the same impression. My '00 Excursion had a plug in the manifold where the EGR tube would have gone. I know some V10s have the EGR system, and I was under the impression that it was a CARB thing.
 
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That's odd...I was under the same impression. My '00 Excursion had a plug in the manifold where the EGR tube would have gone. I know some V10s have the EGR system, and I was under the impression that it was a CARB thing.
My sticker under the hood says meets California emission standards.
 
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