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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 11:12 AM
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Question No Heat.

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I'm getting lukewarm heat when I'm driving almost cold air. When I park the truck it seems to begin to warm up again. I just replaced the heater core yesterday night both heater hoses are hot to the touch. I let it run for quite a while and it warmed up good actually I know these trucks have awesome heaters because my 86 f150 has no happy medium its either you have the heater on or you don't. Haha.

The only thing I could think of is that the thermostat is tired although it this didn't happen before the heater core replacement (old heater core was leaking).
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 11:24 AM
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If your heater hoses are hot(you should not be able to hold onto them for very long-that hot) and your heater core is new, then you have a airflow problem or a door problem in the dash.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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Okay. Maybe I overreacted. I could hold on to the hose maybe not for long but I mean you could touch them and then say okay the heater should be warming up now. I wouldn't think it would be a blend door problem because the cable to the lever was broken when I got the truck and is stuck to the hot position. But I won't rule out that it may be that.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
If your heater hoses are hot(you should not be able to hold onto them for very long-that hot) and your heater core is new, then you have a airflow problem or a door problem in the dash.
Good point, but I'd add one caveat. Can you check the hose temperature immediately after driving? Could be while driving, the coolant temp drops somewhat, like with a thermostat not fully closing and all that airflow through the radiator. Then you test while stationary, and without all that ram airflow through the radiator, the heater hoses feel hot.

Two options:

1) Shrink yourself down to a very compact size and position yourself under the hood while a helper drives the truck. Please use extreme caution due to the hot exhaust manifold, radiator fan, etc.

2) Remain your normal size and go for a test drive to duplicate the cold condition. Pull over and shut the engine down as quickly as possible and see if the hoses are still not hot enough.

Either option will work, but the second one is probably more workable.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fordboy300
Okay. Maybe I overreacted. I could hold on to the hose maybe not for long but I mean you could touch them and then say okay the heater should be warming up now. I wouldn't think it would be a blend door problem because the cable to the lever was broken when I got the truck and is stuck to the hot position. But I won't rule out that it may be that.
Your hoses should be really hot, you can't hold onto 190 degree hoses for very long. If you can hold onto them for a little bit, the engine is not getting hot enough, your thermostat theory might be valid.

I can't believe I am asking this, but is your factory temp gauge somewhere around the "o" in the word "normal" on the gauge? Most of the trucks I have driven, this is about 190 degrees.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kr98664
Good point, but I'd add one caveat. Can you check the hose temperature immediately after driving? Could be while driving, the coolant temp drops somewhat, like with a thermostat not fully closing and all that airflow through the radiator. Then you test while stationary, and without all that ram airflow through the radiator, the heater hoses feel hot.

Two options:

1) Shrink yourself down to a very compact size and position yourself under the hood while a helper drives the truck. Please use extreme caution due to the hot exhaust manifold, radiator fan, etc.

2) Remain your normal size and go for a test drive to duplicate the cold condition. Pull over and shut the engine down as quickly as possible and see if the hoses are still not hot enough.

Either option will work, but the second one is probably more workable.
Well I do have a shrink ray but I'm afraid I won't be able to unshrink myself!!!


Originally Posted by Franklin2
Your hoses should be really hot, you can't hold onto 190 degree hoses for very long. If you can hold onto them for a little bit, the engine is not getting hot enough, your thermostat theory might be valid.

I can't believe I am asking this, but is your factory temp gauge somewhere around the "o" in the word "normal" on the gauge? Most of the trucks I have driven, this is about 190 degrees.
I don't mind changing the thermostat I mean don't even know the last time it was change or if my uncle ever changed it when he had it.

We'll scratch the temp gauge question be cause I know it isn't accurate at all it says I'm over heating when driving and then I shut it off and turn on again and will read normally
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 03:11 PM
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Your heater core may be plugged. Just cleaned one for a buddy with a '91 F150 and the heater will now run you out of the cab.

What happens is that the little tubes in the core get plugged up with gunk and the flow stops, either partially or completely. In order to find that out, check to see if one hose is hotter than the other. That indicates poor flow. If so, you know the hot one is the input and the cooler one is output. You want to reverse the flow to backflush the core, but not put the gunk back in the cooling system. So pull both hoses and loosely couple a garden hose to the output side. LOOSELY! City water pressure is usually 60-100 psi and the heater core is designed for 15. Then turn the water on slowly and watch the gunk come out the input side.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
Your heater core may be plugged. Just cleaned one for a buddy with a '91 F150 and the heater will now run you out of the cab.

What happens is that the little tubes in the core get plugged up with gunk and the flow stops, either partially or completely. In order to find that out, check to see if one hose is hotter than the other. That indicates poor flow. If so, you know the hot one is the input and the cooler one is output. You want to reverse the flow to backflush the core, but not put the gunk back in the cooling system. So pull both hoses and loosely couple a garden hose to the output side. LOOSELY! City water pressure is usually 60-100 psi and the heater core is designed for 15. Then turn the water on slowly and watch the gunk come out the input side.

Would this happen to a new heater core as well?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 04:28 PM
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Take the guessing out of the picture with this.
Non-Contact Infrared Thermometer With Laser Targeting


You can see what the inlet & outlet hoses of both radiator and heater core.
You can also see the temp coming out of the heater.


I should get one someday.
Dave ----
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
Take the guessing out of the picture with this.
Non-Contact Infrared Thermometer With Laser Targeting


You can see what the inlet & outlet hoses of both radiator and heater core.
You can also see the temp coming out of the heater.


I should get one someday.
Dave ----
Well hotdog!!! I have one of those! I haven't used it on this truck it just never hit me to use it.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 04:55 PM
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It would be worth it to replace the thermostat. Did you top off the coolant after the heater core replacement ?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fordboy300
Well hotdog!!! I have one of those! I haven't used it on this truck it just never hit me to use it.
You need to use this
You should be able to tell where the heat is going with it.
Dave ----
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
Take the guessing out of the picture with this.
Non-Contact Infrared Thermometer With Laser Targeting

I should get one someday.
Any infrared thermometer will work great, but why not take it to the next level with a FLIR TG 130?:

https://www.amazon.com/FLIR-TG130-Sp...NB86GVFQQQFK5B

I picked up a refurb unit for $175 a couple of months ago. This thing is absofrickinlutely amazing. Not only can you take a temp reading, but you can also quickly see heat gradients. No more poking around looking for hot or cold spots, it shows relative hot and cold within the field of view. I've been thinking of adding a product review, but can't seem to find my round tuit.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by WhatsAChevy?
It would be worth it to replace the thermostat. Did you top off the coolant after the heater core replacement ?
Yes sir this morning!
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 08:22 PM
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I don't know if it would matter and again when anyone replaces a part they always make sure the wires or hoses go back the same way... but ....
did you?
 
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