harmonic dampener
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harmonic dampener
I have A 1996 e150 5.8 , The harmonic dampener is shot and need a new one . The problem is that this year has a misfire sensor ring attached to the dampener and no one including ford makes them any more . The question is can I not worry about the misfire ring and install a dampener that does not have one .
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I don't know what a misfire ring is, but I just replaced mine on my 1996 E350 5.8, and I just asked for the dampener at NAPA, and installed what they gave me. It looks the same, and the van isn't running any difference.
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This might be what you are looking for but I would call them first
DamperDudes.net (Americas Largest supplier of harmonic balancers)
perhaps part #F6TE-JA for the ring?
Do you think that "4 prong reluctor ring"/"star wheel"/"tone ring"/"4 point you are referring to is the pulse ring for the misfire sensor", could be pressed on to the damper? (all those different names I came across when reading different articles..)
Some threads that mention your part
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...-or-older.html
harmonic balancer 96 bronco. only fits 96. - Ford Bronco Forum
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...-balancer.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...r-w-obdii.html
does it look like this:
DamperDudes.net (Americas Largest supplier of harmonic balancers)
perhaps part #F6TE-JA for the ring?
Do you think that "4 prong reluctor ring"/"star wheel"/"tone ring"/"4 point you are referring to is the pulse ring for the misfire sensor", could be pressed on to the damper? (all those different names I came across when reading different articles..)
Some threads that mention your part
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...-or-older.html
harmonic balancer 96 bronco. only fits 96. - Ford Bronco Forum
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...-balancer.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...r-w-obdii.html
does it look like this:
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This might be the whole part number
F6TZ-6312-JA
Call for Availability
Bluebonnet Motors, Inc.
(830)606-8011
https://www.easyparts.com/Parts/Engi...ord/F6TZ6312JA
here is another thread that mentions your part
"you can find the balancer I posted pics of, you can just press the 4 tooth wheel off and press a 36-1 wheel on.(In the right location, of coarse.) That will give you a 28oz balancer set up for a 351 or a 347 stroker for DIS. The part number is F6TZ-6312-JA. "
28 Oz Balancer for 5.0L Stroker kit | Ford Explorer and Ford Ranger Forums - Serious Explorations
This probably will not fit but I would check with Number Dummy and see if it will cross over
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Mercury-Pickup-Truck-Van-302ci-Harmonic-Balancer-Damper-E4TZ-6316-A-NEW-OEM-/321811895163?hash=item4aed7bd37b
F6TZ-6312-JA
Call for Availability
Bluebonnet Motors, Inc.
(830)606-8011
https://www.easyparts.com/Parts/Engi...ord/F6TZ6312JA
here is another thread that mentions your part
"you can find the balancer I posted pics of, you can just press the 4 tooth wheel off and press a 36-1 wheel on.(In the right location, of coarse.) That will give you a 28oz balancer set up for a 351 or a 347 stroker for DIS. The part number is F6TZ-6312-JA. "
28 Oz Balancer for 5.0L Stroker kit | Ford Explorer and Ford Ranger Forums - Serious Explorations
This probably will not fit but I would check with Number Dummy and see if it will cross over
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Mercury-Pickup-Truck-Van-302ci-Harmonic-Balancer-Damper-E4TZ-6316-A-NEW-OEM-/321811895163?hash=item4aed7bd37b
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I wonder if one of them, yours and his might be one that was produced at the end of the year and called a different year.. I think my 88 was actually built at the end of 87.. or maybe one is a CA emissions van or something like that?
I read a post that said 1996 OBD-ll F150's with 5.8 use this misfire sensor. Does yours have OBD-ll Wirelessengineer?
AH editing as I find info....
another post says: All '96 F150s under 8500 pounds were OBDII. F250s and 350s aren't. IS your E350 over 8500lbs?
Ok, It is a misfire sensor, not a crank sensor, and ties in with the emissions not the ignition system. the pics are from a 1996 F150 with a 5.0. The truck is a 96 built in 08/95 and has a distributor and MAF. with a relocated TFI.
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...1/motor011.jpg
On this pic you can see the actual sensor location on top of the damper. It is covered with a metal shield.
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...motor012-1.jpg
Here is a thread asking if it can be eliminated. If eliminated, will lit pass emissions, I don't know.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...or-bypass.html
No damper but here is the misfire sensor itself
FORD 1996 E-150 5.8L V8 Ignition Ignition Misfire Sensor
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/f...sensor%2C10767
I read a post that said 1996 OBD-ll F150's with 5.8 use this misfire sensor. Does yours have OBD-ll Wirelessengineer?
AH editing as I find info....
another post says: All '96 F150s under 8500 pounds were OBDII. F250s and 350s aren't. IS your E350 over 8500lbs?
Ok, It is a misfire sensor, not a crank sensor, and ties in with the emissions not the ignition system. the pics are from a 1996 F150 with a 5.0. The truck is a 96 built in 08/95 and has a distributor and MAF. with a relocated TFI.
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...1/motor011.jpg
On this pic you can see the actual sensor location on top of the damper. It is covered with a metal shield.
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...motor012-1.jpg
Here is a thread asking if it can be eliminated. If eliminated, will lit pass emissions, I don't know.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...or-bypass.html
No damper but here is the misfire sensor itself
FORD 1996 E-150 5.8L V8 Ignition Ignition Misfire Sensor
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/f...sensor%2C10767
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you might call these guys too they also rebuild dampers
FOR3026B 96/ F6TE-JA
Product Code: FOR3026B
Availability: In Stock
Price: $123.75
FOR3026B 96/ F6TE-JA
FOR3026B 96/ F6TE-JA
Product Code: FOR3026B
Availability: In Stock
Price: $123.75
FOR3026B 96/ F6TE-JA
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you might call these guys too they also rebuild dampers
FOR3026B 96/ F6TE-JA
Product Code: FOR3026B
Availability: In Stock
Price: $123.75
FOR3026B 96/ F6TE-JA
FOR3026B 96/ F6TE-JA
Product Code: FOR3026B
Availability: In Stock
Price: $123.75
FOR3026B 96/ F6TE-JA
They do pre '72 motor mounts and driveshaft supports too!
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Bingo. That's it. Mine is the E350. It's got an OBDII port that has power to it, but it doesn't do anything. Out near the battery there is a proprietary Ford diagnostic port that actually works if you have the Ford machine that reads it.
Very confusing, as I usually take my van to a local shop for work, and they were trying to get info from the OBDII port one time, and of course it wasn't working no matter what they did.
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I have 1997 Ford F250 4.9L 300-6 cylinders. It has a misfire ring called crankshaft position reluctor wheel with 3 points. Please, I need the product part number for it. I have harmonic balancer puller and I forgot to use it. I was using the 2 jaws puller and it broke my crankshaft ring that fits to the 594-391 harmonic balancer Dorman to my 4.9L engine. The ring simply install with 3 bolts to the back of harmonic balancer damper. It use special torx bits with hollow from AdvanceAuto.
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This is just to get an idea of if your part looks like this or not. The fitment on this part says only for a 1996 4.9.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crankshaft-Pulley-4-9L-E150-E250-E350-Van-1996-New-/121723747684/?_ul=DO
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crankshaft-Pulley-4-9L-E150-E250-E350-Van-1996-New-/121723747684/?_ul=DO