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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 08:38 PM
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Stangtime - what was he bet version number they provided?
The latest build is 2.3.17test20180901

I have used this version and it works on everything I have tried except secure idle (police mode). When I looked at that section, the value listed in the spread sheet was already in the trucks computer. I will take another look at it later. I also forgot to tell it to remember the fog lights last position.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tx.Hoon
The latest build is 2.3.17test20180901

I have used this version and it works on everything I have tried except secure idle (police mode). When I looked at that section, the value listed in the spread sheet was already in the trucks computer. I will take another look at it later. I also forgot to tell it to remember the fog lights last position.
Same version I used for manual regen on the IPC and PCM and some BCM and SCCM changes. Mine was already set for secure idle as well. I tested it by starting the truck while sitting in the seat and then taking the fob in the house and coming back out to try and drive and got a message saying key not present and the shifter stayed locked when I pressed the brake and tried to shift into gear. Seems secure to me.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 03:03 PM
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ok. So that reading was about the same than gauge show.. so i did static dpf regen.. and it drop back to zero...
that make me wonder.... i still think that is not the reading of real amount of ash or coal what ever you guys call it..
in the dpf... but the point when the truck want to regen so that the dpf wont have time to build up ash or soot inside of it ...
i m a mechanic and i have a garage here in Finland and all the european cars what have dpf the reading we read is the amount of ash in the dpf. And when that reading goes too high we do static regen... but some manufacter cars wont let regen after some point. And the dpf need to replace.
but we are talking over 300 000km at that point..
i realy dont want to belive that my one year old truck with 25 000km on the clock had allready a 60% clogged dpf on it..
if so then it has to go and delete and tune is going to replace that...
reply to my self or if someone is still reading this post.

this setting to get dpf % on the screen cant be the real reading of the soot/ ash in the dpf...
i belive it is the reading when the pcm want to start the regen so there would not be any ash build up in to the dpf... cause it make no sense that after static regen i drove about 400km and the reading show 65% full allready.. the dpf in the 6.7 is about the size of sputnik... and if that dpf would be 65% clogged after 400km ride the engine should create black smoke more than tractor pull tractors do... and how in the hell i could make the 25 000km on the clock if the dpf is full in evry 1000 km ???? I dont thik so.. is there any ford mechanic here who could chime in and illuminate us?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 05:05 PM
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ok. So that reading was about the same than gauge show.. so i did static dpf regen.. and it drop back to zero...
that make me wonder.... i still think that is not the reading of real amount of ash or coal what ever you guys call it..
in the dpf... but the point when the truck want to regen so that the dpf wont have time to build up ash or soot inside of it ...
i m a mechanic and i have a garage here in Finland and all the european cars what have dpf the reading we read is the amount of ash in the dpf. And when that reading goes too high we do static regen... but some manufacter cars wont let regen after some point. And the dpf need to replace.
but we are talking over 300 000km at that point..
i realy dont want to belive that my one year old truck with 25 000km on the clock had allready a 60% clogged dpf on it..
if so then it has to go and delete and tune is going to replace that...
reply to my self or if someone is still reading this post.

this setting to get dpf % on the screen cant be the real reading of the soot/ ash in the dpf...
i belive it is the reading when the pcm want to start the regen so there would not be any ash build up in to the dpf... cause it make no sense that after static regen i drove about 400km and the reading show 65% full allready.. the dpf in the 6.7 is about the size of sputnik... and if that dpf would be 65% clogged after 400km ride the engine should create black smoke more than tractor pull tractors do... and how in the hell i could make the 25 000km on the clock if the dpf is full in evry 1000 km ???? I dont thik so.. is there any ford mechanic here who could chime in and illuminate us?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 05:45 PM
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From: Tomball, Tx
Originally Posted by Juza
reply to my self or if someone is still reading this post.

this setting to get dpf % on the screen cant be the real reading of the soot/ ash in the dpf...
i belive it is the reading when the pcm want to start the regen so there would not be any ash build up in to the dpf... cause it make no sense that after static regen i drove about 400km and the reading show 65% full allready.. the dpf in the 6.7 is about the size of sputnik... and if that dpf would be 65% clogged after 400km ride the engine should create black smoke more than tractor pull tractors do... and how in the hell i could make the 25 000km on the clock if the dpf is full in evry 1000 km ???? I dont thik so.. is there any ford mechanic here who could chime in and illuminate us?
Juza - you are not alone, I'm listening and watching the conversation.
there are so many monitoring points its crazy....

I have seen the 2nd (yellow) dpf reading go down significantly even after the regen is completed (here in one picture it reads 66% when ReGen activates).

I also noticed today EGT #14 stayed over 1000* (f) even after the ReGen was no longer active....I could hear it burning fuel even though regen was no longer active.
During activated ReGen EGT12 is very high 1000, 1100 even 1400 (f).





 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 05:59 PM
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Line 81 - Disable Traction Control

This did not work for me. All it did was disable the button on the dash. All traction controls and Advancetrac are still active...and now I can't use the button to turn it off.


How do I open the original IPC file I saved so I can view it to get the original value?

I think I figured it out. I guess I'll come back when I have a question about diesel regens
 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 08:39 PM
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Why can't we just have a regen switch!
 
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 08:20 PM
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Why can't we just have a regen switch!
Because if I had to drive a international for my personal truck I'd have more problems than a regen switch haha.

it would be cool if they treated them more like the mdt trucks in regards to regens...
 
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Curt's05
Why can't we just have a regen switch!
because FORD would make you pull over every 500 miles to park & regen!
 
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 01:28 PM
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One week and about 400 km and dpf 99%full...from zero%
no way and no how...
this confirm that the dpf reading what we can get on the screen with forscan is nothing but the pcm calculated time befor it will start regen while driving so there would not have time to build up real ash or soot in the dpf...
The real reading of the amount of ash in dpf was zero...
 
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Juza
One week and about 400 km and dpf 99%full...from zero%
no way and no how...
this confirm that the dpf reading what we can get on the screen with forscan is nothing but the pcm calculated time befor it will start regen while driving so there would not have time to build up real ash or soot in the dpf...
The real reading of the amount of ash in dpf was zero...
Over the last five regens, my truck has averaged ~220 to ~230 miles between regens. That's ~354 to ~370 km in Canadian speak.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 02:12 PM
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Yes that seems to be right.. but that is just the regen interval so there wount be enough of time to create real soot in the dpf... for exaple 2.5 tdi volvo you can run about 300 000km be fore you need a static regen done with tester when the dpf ash/soot% is about 100.. and it still clear it up at some point .
i have cut open a dpf what was poitnt that it fail forcend regen time after time and that dpf was really blocked..
and mileage was over 300 000km so i really dont belive you can 99%clog sputnik size dpf in 400km..
 
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Juza
Yes that seems to be right.. but that is just the regen interval so there wount be enough of time to create real soot in the dpf... for exaple 2.5 tdi volvo you can run about 300 000km be fore you need a static regen done with tester when the dpf ash/soot% is about 100.. and it still clear it up at some point .
i have cut open a dpf what was poitnt that it fail forcend regen time after time and that dpf was really blocked..
and mileage was over 300 000km so i really dont belive you can 99%clog sputnik size dpf in 400km..
Am I misunderstanding you, or are you claiming that a vehicle can go 300,000 km (186,411 miles) before it ACTUALLY needs to perform a DPF regeneration?
 
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by roadpilot
Over the last five regens, my truck has averaged ~220 to ~230 miles between regens. That's ~354 to ~370 km in Canadian speak.
Roadpilot must have a heavy right foot (like I do)....Around town, (you can see, in my screenshots) I'm averaging 233 miles between regen.
I have seen ReGen occur in as little as 90 miles (drive it like a rental).
 
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Juza
One week and about 400 km and dpf 99%full...from zero%
no way and no how...
this confirm that the dpf reading what we can get on the screen with forscan is nothing but the pcm calculated time befor it will start regen while driving so there would not have time to build up real ash or soot in the dpf...
The real reading of the amount of ash in dpf was zero...
I have seen DPF % Filter Fuel actually DECREASE (w/out regen) when ive gotten out on the interstate (after driving around town for several days).

Originally Posted by Juza
Yes that seems to be right.. but that is just the regen interval so there wount be enough of time to create real soot in the dpf... for exaple 2.5 tdi volvo you can run about 300 000km be fore you need a static regen done with tester when the dpf ash/soot% is about 100.. and it still clear it up at some point .
i have cut open a dpf what was poitnt that it fail forcend regen time after time and that dpf was really blocked..
and mileage was over 300 000km so i really dont belive you can 99%clog sputnik size dpf in 400km..
the ford strategy is messed up...every 500 miles, needed or not.
This past winter in temperatures below 10* (f), on a very long - NON STOP, 1300 mile interstate driving event, the filter was showing as little as 35% full - but because I reached 497 miles - the regen occurred (and killed my trip MPG)!

Originally Posted by roadpilot
Am I misunderstanding you, or are you claiming that a vehicle can go 300,000 km (186,411 miles) before it ACTUALLY needs to perform a DPF regeneration?
I have friends....with pusher bus/rv's that have done 10k miles and STILL havent seen a ReGen occur!
 
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