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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 04:09 PM
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Power Steering Pump

I know that I have a Saginaw PS Pump. The steering is "intermittently" reverting to manual steering, ripping my arms off. at will.
Full fluid and no visible leaks. New Redhead Steering Gear, system bled..
I heard some whining and grinding so I did the screwdriver to ear stethoscope and the bearings are hollering. Question is...when I look up a PS Pump for an 84 F150 302.....I get this.


Clearly.... not a Saginaw. Looks Corporate.
My question is....What is the stock PS pump for a 84 F150 302 4X4 ? I'm not so keen on all that plastic and wondering if I should rebuild my pump.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 04:42 PM
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Someone must have swapped in the saginaw on your truck. I want to say the saginaw pumps were on the Ford vans but I am not sure.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 06:58 PM
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Yep, Sag's in vans, Mercury's & Lincoln too.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
Yep, Sag's in vans, Mercury's & Lincoln too.
And 1972/79 FoMoCo Passenger Cars with Hydro-Boost.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 11:43 PM
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Perhaps he has the world famous Cardone 20-6244 Saginaw Conversion pump? If so, I would rebuild it, or find a Saginaw pump that fits the horseshoe mount on the front...

There would be a whole slough of people on this site that would gladly trade you a brand new pump just to get their hands on one of those horseshoe mounts...

-Matt
 
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Old Nov 3, 2016 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Cheesecake
Perhaps he has the world famous Cardone 20-6244 Saginaw Conversion pump? If so, I would rebuild it, or find a Saginaw pump that fits the horseshoe mount on the front...

There would be a whole slough of people on this site that would gladly trade you a brand new pump just to get their hands on one of those horseshoe mounts...

-Matt
The obsolete Cardone 20-6244 reman has a custom shaft that is longer in order to make up for the 'horseshoe' and a smaller diameter so the regular C2 pulley will fit over it.
So, no... anther Saginaw will not fit.

This has been well documented in previous threads.
It's easy to look for the adapter or mic the shaft to tell.

There are a bunch of tutorials showing disassembly and inspection of the Saginaw steering pump.
A rebuild kit is only $14 and will work just the same in the Cardone pump.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2016 | 01:30 PM
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What do you mean by "ripping your arms off"
Do you mean it wants to "turn by it's self" either to the right, left, or want to go straight when you want to turn?

is it 4x4?
If it is 4x4, when the knuckle U-joints rust up, they don't like to rotate "like they are supposed to" and you get the violent "steering wheel spin"

Jack up both sides of the front end, T-Case in 2 Hi, Lock both hubs, cut the wheel to either right turn or left turn, and then rotate the tires by hand for a couple complete rotations.
You may find the tires "lock up" cause the u-joint won't let it rotate.
That can be the "arm ripping" cause.....
 
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Old Nov 3, 2016 | 05:29 PM
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ArdWrknTrk,
Well, as many of my other posts have proven, I'm a moron. Thanks for the correction.

Cheers,

Matt
 
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Old Nov 3, 2016 | 05:46 PM
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ArdWrknTrk,
Well, as many of my other posts have proven, I'm a moron. Thanks for the correction.

Cheers,

Matt
Im not trying to put you down, I'm just pointing out what makes that Cardone pump so different.

I have an E350 pump and bracket in my truck.
At least i can walk into any LAPS and get a replacement.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2016 | 06:13 PM
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Nah, my last post was titled "I'm a moron...". I was making fun of myself. I suppose I should have used an emoji.
 
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I don't see titles, sigs, avatars, post counts or or much of anything else on my phone.

​​​​​​​I'm glad to know you weren't offended.
 
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